September 13, 20187 yr I updated avilsoft to v2, then updated chaseplane to their newest version and noticed fps dropped to around 5. So I thought I would update to v4.3 of P3D (which i had downloaded the other day), and following Matt Davis' video I only updated the client, scenery and contents. Well my fps is terrible (deleted the scenery.cfg as suggested elsewhere) and CYEG now has fantastic mounds everywhere like the airport has sunk 15ft into the earth. Bottom line is that P3D V4 has become unusable and I would really like to get back to the usual 30-70 fps I was used to before all those changes. It is supposed to work but it doesn't. Forgive my ignorance, but after many hours of trying and searching I just have hit a wall. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Oh...I also updated FSUIPC to the latest version as well (v5 I believe). Is this hardware? Software conflicts? Thanks for your input. Edited September 13, 20187 yr by pappinr Have a great day, Rob Pappin
September 13, 20187 yr Do you run Orbx Vector and/or regional sceneries? If so, you have to run FTX Central at least once after installing the scenery module to rewrite its changes to the terrain.cfg. And if you run FTXGlobal you need to reinstall that. It's never a really good idea to throw a whole bunch of changes in at once, because it becomes a real Sherlock Holmes drill to discern what's causing the problem. If you don't have a lot of add-ons, it might be a good idea to uninstall everything, then rebuild Rome incrementally rather than all at once. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 13, 20187 yr And don't forget the AEC airport elevation fixer. I am not at home to verify the exact location but you can find it in Orbx\Settings Be sure to look for Airport Elevation Corrections Robert \Robert Hamlich/
September 13, 20187 yr Author 1 minute ago, w6kd said: Do you run Orbx Vector and/or regional sceneries? If so, you have to run FTX Central at least once after installing the scenery module to rewrite its changes to the terrain.cfg. And if you run FTXGlobal you need to reinstall that. It's never a really good idea to throw a whole bunch of changes in at once, because it becomes a real Sherlock Holmes drill to discern what's causing the problem. If you don't have a lot of add-ons, it might be a good idea to uninstall everything, then rebuild Rome incrementally rather than all at once. Regards Alright...thanks for the awesome tips. And no, I did not do anything with Orbx and so I will give that a try. So the things I changed were Chaseplane and Avilsoft EFB. And then I update to 4.3. I will follow your advice to update orbx but before a complete reinstall I will try that. Thanks for such a fast reply! I will keep you posted. FYI, I was just running the sim on all the default settings and was getting descent frames and the terrain seemed to fix itself. Oh, I also update Envidir shade to the latest version. And yes, I threw alot at the sim, but now realize that was a bit too much maybe. Thanks again. Rob Have a great day, Rob Pappin
September 13, 20187 yr Hi, I feel your pain ! Did you try to delete the Shaders ? Mike Mike Lab WIN10 / I7-6700K HT ON / GTX980 / 16 GB RAM / 3 x SAMSUNG EVO 1TB SSD / 1 X WD BLACK 2TB HDD / 32" 60hz Monitor @ 2560x1440 / P3Dv4.4 No AM, Locked to 59 FPS, VSync ON, Triple buffering enabled Process Lasso used to unload all other applications than P3D running on core 0
September 13, 20187 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Mikelab6 said: Hi, I feel your pain ! Did you try to delete the shaders ? Mike I didn't do that, but I tried to update them. Is it best to delete them? Oh so many details just to enjoy flying! Thanks Mikelab6! Have a great day, Rob Pappin
September 13, 20187 yr If performance issues arise and you reinstall P3D or run repair, reinstall or reconfigure your addons one at a time and start P3D each time to see which addon is causing the sim to degrade in performance. Also check out the P3D tip and tricks section here: https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/657-prepar3d-tips-tricks-and-how-tos/ Edited September 13, 20187 yr by Bills511
September 13, 20187 yr Author 8 minutes ago, HUSSAR said: And don't forget the AEC airport elevation fixer. I am not at home to verify the exact location but you can find it in Orbx\Settings Robert Doing that right now...running that in Orbx central. Stay tuned. And thank you for the tip. I love this forum community! Rob Have a great day, Rob Pappin
September 13, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, pappinr said: Is it best to delete them? Yes just the Shaders folder but not the Shaders_P4AO folder or the ShadersHLSL.
September 13, 20187 yr 6 minutes ago, pappinr said: I didn't do that, but I tried to update them. Is it best to delete them? Oh so many details just to enjoy flying! Thanks Mikelab6! Delete all the files in that folder, the sim will creates new files. The folder is located here: C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Shaders The sim will be slower as it have to rebuilds the new shaders while flying in new areas, but it will not take so much time. Nothing too loose... Mike Edited September 13, 20187 yr by Mikelab6 Mike Lab WIN10 / I7-6700K HT ON / GTX980 / 16 GB RAM / 3 x SAMSUNG EVO 1TB SSD / 1 X WD BLACK 2TB HDD / 32" 60hz Monitor @ 2560x1440 / P3Dv4.4 No AM, Locked to 59 FPS, VSync ON, Triple buffering enabled Process Lasso used to unload all other applications than P3D running on core 0
September 13, 20187 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, pappinr said: deleted the scenery.cfg as suggested elsewhere) and CYEG now has fantastic mounds everywhere like the airport has sunk 15ft into the earth. One is the result of the other. If you delete the scenery.cfg, then P3D will create a default copy of it. You will lose all addon content that was in there, from altitude correction to complete airports. Never delete anything. Move it somewhere else or rename it. Only delete when you are 100% certain that the replacement works. Create a full system image of your computer from time to time, especially before throwing large scale changes at your sim. Then you can always go back to how it was. Best regards LORBY-SI
September 13, 20187 yr Author Wow! Thanks for all the great advice, tips and warnings! I will have to wait until after work to test the performance issue. I truly appreciate you helping me work through this. I love flight simming and I am looking forward to returning to an enjoyable experience. Cheers all! Have a great day, Rob Pappin
September 13, 20187 yr Commercial Member 2 minutes ago, pappinr said: Wow! Thanks for all the great advice, tips and warnings! I will have to wait until after work to test the performance issue. I truly appreciate you helping me work through this. I love flight simming and I am looking forward to returning to an enjoyable experience. Cheers all! Rob, I would say disable all 3rd party add-on's, do some tests with the default sim stuff and start enabling one add-on at a time, this way you can find the culprit of your problems more easily. All the best, Simbol Oficial Website: https://www.FSReborn.com Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/XC82TqvKQ3
September 13, 20187 yr I would reinstall client delete shaders scenery index files and P3d cfg that does it for me
September 14, 20187 yr Author Hi everyone...so after doing most of the tweeks you suggested, things seem to be still a bit wonky. I have to run everything on default graphics settings and it works just fine. I only have a gtx 960m and a light processor. It worked at higher graphic settings before but I will just work through more of your ideas to get the sim to work well. Thank you for all your suggestions (I have yet to implement some of them) and I truly appreciate your time in offering your expertise. I was able to fly out of Edmonton on my way to Boston with no trouble. Yes, the graphics could have been better, but at the end of the day I can fly again. Thank you! Cheers! Rob Have a great day, Rob Pappin
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