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RTX 2080 Ti vs GTX 1080 Ti vs GTX 980 Ti: 1440p

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5 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I also wonder if the sim is really using the card very well

Thanks Devon. Yes that may be the reason things are so very quite. It may also be the reason that in the so called release there was no mention of normal preformance over say the 1080TI. All the numbers were carefully picked so that there was no data to compare it against. Now I know that Nvidia is more intrested in making pretty fire for the kids games and that is how they get into Daddy's wallet and so the days of how we measured performance may be over. Hard to tell. This has been a strange few weeks to say the least.


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1 hour ago, shivers9 said:

Thanks Devon. Yes that may be the reason things are so very quite. It may also be the reason that in the so called release there was no mention of normal preformance over say the 1080TI. All the numbers were carefully picked so that there was no data to compare it against. Now I know that Nvidia is more intrested in making pretty fire for the kids games and that is how they get into Daddy's wallet and so the days of how we measured performance may be over. Hard to tell. This has been a strange few weeks to say the least.

I suspect something is wrong, possibly on my end. I have absolutely awful CPU and GPU utilization in P3D, never exceeding 50% even in nearly maxed settings, with a locked 30 framerate. 😕

Not to mention blurries, late loading textures......

Bleah.

 


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39 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I suspect something is wrong, possibly on my end. I have absolutely awful CPU and GPU utilization in P3D, never exceeding 50% even in nearly maxed settings, with a locked 30 framerate. 😕

Not to mention blurries, late loading textures......

Bleah.

 

Hate to hear that. Do you still have the 1080TI just to pop in for a sanity check. If that works then you know to look at the new card.


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Nope! Sold and shipped in a day. But I know there's nothing wrong with the card. It works fine in everything else, its just p3dv4 that it doesn't like


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4 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Nope! Sold and shipped in a day. But I know there's nothing wrong with the card. It works fine in everything else, its just p3dv4 that it doesn't like

I am sure you have a new driver so did you delete and reload shaders in P3d and also try to delete the CFG and let that rebuild.


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4 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

I am sure you have a new driver so did you delete and reload shaders in P3d and also try to delete the CFG and let that rebuild.

Yes to the shaders no to the CFG. I'll give that a shot. The interesting thing is that it holds perfectly fine at 30 frames per second with almost everything turned on accept traffic. That's not very horrible, and in fact it's probably fairly good, but according to the graphs there's a lot of horsepower being left on the table. I wish that Rob had received his card so he could take a look at this and either corroborate what I'm seeing or share his alternate findings.


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3 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

according to the graphs there's a lot of horsepower being left on the table.

I think that these things have like 3 banks of memory for the RTX ect. I wonder if that shows because it is not using the new features like RTX. I don't know what you are looking at for the graphs but it also could be that windows updates have not caught up or some of the other tools are not updated to deal with these cards.Just brain storming a bit.


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Packing it in for the night. Let us know if you get it sorted out. Good luck


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Some tests.

I'm going to hazard that a 2080ti is overkill at this point for P3D...... The GPU is essentially on vacation though this is at 1440p. Perhaps 4K would wake it up a bit more. I would say it is very good however, if you want to fly with max eye-candy.....

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NY P3D: EVERY P3D option maxed except water/Clouds/traffic which are at default (Gpu wakes up a bit and yawns)
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We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 32GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5

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Aerofly Miami Florida Max settings 1440psmrWWn.png

Aerofly Netherlands Max settings 1440p
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Aerofly Ny Max settings
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Devons rig
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I'm not surprised 2080 is pascal with faster ram as far as P3Dv4 is concerned, any one using an older CPU would be better of with a new motherboard and CPU would be less expensive then a 2080ti and still have change in there pocket, and the latest talk is that Nvidia have a XP in the pipe line next year and based on the price of the 2080ti god knows what that will be priced at.    


 

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X-Plane 11 NY: All settings Maxed

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X-Plane 11 NY: All settings maxed (Except reflections OFF)

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X-Plane 11 NY: All settings maxed (Except Reflections & Shadows OFF)

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We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 32GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5

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DCS Nevada 1440p

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Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 32GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5

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Project Wingman and its TrueSky Clouds: Remember TrueSky?

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Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 32GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5

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I’m a bit bemused about the P3D results . 25fps over NY with the processor working at 50% and the GPU not much different. What’s the bottleneck, what’s holding the FPS back??


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