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The RXP GNS 530W/430W V2 is compatible with some of the database files included in the GTN Trainer:

 

- The Aviation database:
   worldwide.bin for the GNS

   006-d0170-00.bin for the GTN (v6.1.1 for example)

 

- The Base map:

   bmap.bin for both trainers

 

Should you want to try other database files, we suggest you first make a backup of the existing files. Then you can either choose to overwrite the files, which you can restore with the backup later if needed. Otherwise, you can configure the GNS to use a different DB folder (documented in the user's manual).

 

Disclaimer: the technical information in this post does not grant you any other right than Garmin's Trainer EULA. Please make sure you comply to the EULA prior attempting this.

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The database files in the latest version of GTN Trainer (6.2.1.1) seem to be different.

Which file corresponds with worldwide.bin?

I can't find 006-d0170-00.bin or something similar.

 

Thanks!

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I'd suppose the worldwide database is larger than the americas database, hence infer the largest file of the two is 'worldwide' and the smallest of the two is 'americas'.

 

This way of thinking should help find the correct database in the future is they change the name again!

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The DB is 6.21 is named differently. Nav_DB1 or something similar to that. Ive tried renaming to the same as 6.0.1 with no success.

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If you try to rename any DB file to the GTN DB file name, instead of the GNS DB file name, this won't work: the GNS database file name is "worldwide.bin"

 

So you just need to:

 

1) make a backup of your GNS DB folder ( typically "C:\Program Files (x86)\Garmin\GNS Trainer\GNS\db" )

 

2) copy the bmap.bin to the GNS "DB" folder

 

3) a ) either copy the nav_db2.bin from the GTN as "worldwide.bin" for the GNS

 

   or

 

    b ) copy nav_db2.bin into the GNS "DB" folder and use the "GNSDBFILE" environment variable to tell the GNS (see user's manual).

 

Please note this is working with GTN trainer 6.1.1 (the one with our GTN), not tested with the trainer 6.21.1 (for this one, let us know here!)

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Hi,

 

I followed your instruction and successfully updated the bmap.bin and worldwide.bin using the files from the GTN 6.1.1

 

Then I tried with the 6.211, I found the files copied them over the the GNS but no success, the nav_db2.bin file that I renamed worldwide.bin is not working.

Has someone magged to use this file from the 6.211 ?

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Hi,

 

I read the manual but I do not understand were I should add/modify

GNSDBFILE="C:\Users\MyName\Documents\gns_db.bin"
 
Can you tell me it this to a ini file were is it?
 
Thanks

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Thanks,

 

About : I tried with the 6.211, I found the files copied them over the the GNS but no success, the nav_db2.bin file that I renamed worldwide.bin is not working.

Any idea why ? is it working for you ?

From the GTN trainer 6.11 I got the 0716 Nav data working, as I understand the 6.211 has the 1116 nav dat but as said not working or not recnized when copied over to the GNS db folder as worldwide.bin?

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This seems normal: the db format as changed with the latest GTN trainer in order for the DB file to include runways length less than 4000ft. This is a new format (well slightly changed) sufficient to render the older GNS DB loader failing to recognize the DB. This is working only with GTN Trainer 6110 for now, until we have a deeper look at the causes with the newest GTN trainer db.

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Try to locate a site to download the GTN version  6.1.1.  Anyone can share the link to the trainer or can share the three files (worldwide.bin, terrain.odb, basemap.bin)?

 

Thanks ahead,

Tom

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Please understand unless these files where generated by you, you might want to find another place to post the links.

What I mean by "generated by you" is something like: say you have designed a converter program which takes a number of source files, for example airport ICAOs, VOR, frequencies etc..., and produces GNS compatible DB file(s) in binary format.

I'd imagine you'd made the files compatible to the GNS, to the point to reproducing the same file headers with the same copyright information embedded so as to have the GNS display the DB info as authentically as it would be with a real DB as well.

I know we are all craving for DB updates, and we are too busy on developing the GNS and GTN for the FSim platform for now, but once we have the time, I'll see what can be done in this department as well. At least, I'll try.

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On 12.6.2017 at 8:01 PM, RXP said:

 

I know we are all craving for DB updates, and we are too busy on developing the GNS and GTN for the FSim platform for now, but once we have the time, I'll see what can be done in this department as well. At least, I'll try.

That's possibly a stupid question, as I am new to RealityXP: why isn't is possible to use the X-Plane implemented Nav database, respectively Navigraph or NavDataPro?

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On July 6, 2017 at 3:20 AM, StefanH75 said:

why isn't is possible to use the X-Plane implemented Nav database

Hi, the answer is simple: the Garmin device uses its own database format, which is proprietary binary packed data. Provided one as the DB file specs, it'd be easy to build a "converter" for this, but such specs are confidential and under NDA with Garmin/Jeppesen.

Like I've said in another post, for the last 15 years we've been offering our authentic GPS simulations, there has been a demand from a fraction of our customer base for database updates, and I'll have a very close look at this once we've released all our GNS, GTN and G500 product line.

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Ok, understood. I also didn't consider that the Garmin trainer is implemented in your simulation. However, it's quite uncomfortable if you use flightplanners with updated database and the GNS just doesn't find some of the waypoints. Nevertheless your GNS offers more immersion and fun than the default by XP :happy: 

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On July 9, 2017 at 7:25 PM, RXP said:

there has been a demand from a fraction of our customer base for database updates, and I'll have a very close look at this once we've released all our GNS, GTN and G500 product line.

 

Just Something to think about - have you done any market research on potential customers regarding database updates?  

My personal view is that I'd rather use XP11 or P3D built-in GPS units with current data via Navigraph and fs Aerodata than higher-functioning units with old data.  Its the only thing that's prevented me from looking at RealityXP or F1.

Food for thought is all - certainly not everyone has the same criteria for the value-add of certain sim add-ons and I'm sure most of your customers are quite satisfied.  I'll be on the lookout for if & when those updates may be available :)

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7 hours ago, fizzer said:

 

Just Something to think about - have you done any market research on potential customers regarding database updates?  

 

If this were easy to do, it would have been done..

If you own the actual RW unit (or know someone who does..) , you can transfer the navdata from your subscription to the Trainer..  that is about the only way..

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8 hours ago, fizzer said:

I'm sure most of your customers are quite satisfied.

I guess they are indeed! This shouldn't refrain us from trying harder though!

Something worth considering though: our GNS simulation uses a more recent Garmin Trainer. It not only comes with Garmin software v3.3, it also share DB compatibility with the GTN (up to before they change their DB format). 

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21 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

If this were easy to do, it would have been done..

If you own the actual RW unit (or know someone who does..) , you can transfer the navdata from your subscription to the Trainer..  that is about the only way..

I agree.  As it is not easy to do, if the demand is there then the organization which accomplishes it would be rewarded, right?

 

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1 hour ago, fizzer said:

I agree.  As it is not easy to do, if the demand is there then the organization which accomplishes it would be rewarded, right?

 

I wonder...rewarded?   

Many in our community want a lot, and do not want to pay for it..

That is why some developers quit the scene..

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