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TV vs Ultra Wide screen appreciate opinions

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Hi, I would appreciate some advice on which way I should go TV or Ultra wide monitor. I will be getting a Jetline systems with i9-9900K o/c to 5GHZ,  2080ti,  and moving over to P3D v4. I am leaning towards the samsung 43" UHD 4K NU7100 tv(can't go bigger because of space) mostly because of the extra height so I can get a bigger view of the cockpit. But the 34" ultra wide monitor look pretty nice too with G-sync, although about twice the cost. Anyways appreciate your experience you have either way, Thanks Perry.

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The NU7100 at 43" is likely to be an IPS panel, the 50" is a guaranteed VA (I have an NU7400)

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TV all the way. That ultrawide is actually narrower than the TV and  will look tiny!

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54 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

The NU7100 at 43" is likely to be an IPS panel, the 50" is a guaranteed VA (I have an NU7400)

NU7100 is a VA panel.

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I would look for a display with a wide color gamut - 95%+ DCI P3 support. It's going to probably triple the price though 😞 You are not going to find a quality display in the size range or price. But ignorance is bliss I suppose.

Stay away from VA panels!

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It's a mixture, the first generation were VA and rest were IPS at that size, at least in Europe. This is a common trait to all of Samsung's cheaper models, it's pot luck if you get VA or IPS (except at 50", all 50" has to be VA).

The NU7400 has WCG support but will obviously only display a subset of that as it's an 8+2 bit panel iirc. The HDR is rubbish, no such thing as budget HDR sadly.

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1 hour ago, Perry333 said:

Hi, I would appreciate some advice on which way I should go TV or Ultra wide monitor. I will be getting a Jetline systems with i9-9900K o/c to 5GHZ,  2080ti,  and moving over to P3D v4. I am leaning towards the samsung 43" UHD 4K NU7100 tv(can't go bigger because of space) mostly because of the extra height so I can get a bigger view of the cockpit. But the 34" ultra wide monitor look pretty nice too with G-sync, although about twice the cost. Anyways appreciate your experience you have either way, Thanks Perry.

Go for the 43 inch TV for sure if your looking for a better cockpit view.  I went from a 38 inch ultra wide to a 43 inch TV and it was well worth it.  The NU7100 makes an excellent PC monitor.  Just be aware TV's in that price range don't have the brightest screens.  Something to be aware of if using in a bright lit room. 

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11 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

The HDR is rubbish, no such thing as budget HDR sadly.

I couldn't agree more.  It is a serious case of false advertising. 

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Just now, mpw8679 said:

Why?

IPS has better color when it comes to monitors. I guess most tvs are VA. Ive tested a few a VA panels and the color just looked washed out compared to even my cheap IPS panels ive had in the past. 

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3 minutes ago, strider1 said:

IPS has better color when it comes to monitors. I guess most tvs are VA. Ive tested a few a VA panels and the color just looked washed out compared to even my cheap IPS panels ive had in the past. 

IMO VA panels have much better contrast ratios.  Much better blacks in a dark room.  Each to there own it is all a trade off.  I haven't noticed any washed out colors on any of my VA panels though.

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2 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

IMO VA panels have much better contrast ratios.  Much better blacks in a dark room.  Each to there own it is all a trade off.  I haven't noticed any washed out colors on any of my VA panels though.

Yes they do have better contrast ratios but whats the point if the color is awful? You are just used to it and you have nothing to compare it too.  I bought this https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1430352-REG/philips_436m6vbpab_43_mva_panel_4k.html   and I returned a few days later after comparing it to my cheap IPS panel. I am into photography so color accuracy is very important! We spend thousands of dollars on our PCs but skimp on the cheapest monitors! 

 

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Basically if you are doing night flying in dark room you will want VA because of increased contrast and better black level. VA also works better for fast gaming because it responds quicker than IPS, although VA can ghost and blur.

IPS has better colours but suffers from IPS glow. viewing angle is better but that's not really a consideration on monitors. And a good VA will do reasonable colours anyway, providing you're not doing professional graphics editing; my AOC Q2778VQE (TN panel) was tested as covering 98.9% of sRGB.

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hey guys thanks for the input, I think I will go for the 43" nu7100 just because of the price as I'm already spending a bit on new computer and upgrading other things to P3D. Maybe down the road I can look at newer versions of Samsung tv when prices come down again. Thanks again

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3 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

Basically if you are doing night flying in dark room you will want VA because of increased contrast and better black level. VA also works better for fast gaming because it responds quicker than IPS.

IPS has better colours but suffers from IPS glow. viewing angle is better but that's not really a consideration on monitors. And a good VA will do good colours anyway, providing you're not doing professional graphics editing.

I know the difference between VA and IPS panels. There is a reason why IPS are more expensive than VA panels. I rather have my reds as an example look like red vs a variation of red!  

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@strider1in that case my delta e is 1.91, mostly accrued on red, don't think that;'s too bad for a budget monitor and certainly good enough for any gaming. I know a professional IPS monitor will come well under 1.0 but you pay a lot for those.

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If guys ever get the opportunity to test a VA panel next to wide color gamut IPS panel, you never go back to a VA panel! Thats why people love OLEDs its the best of both worlds! 

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OLEDs are awesome but not a good idea for monitors because of burn in. And not sure MicroLED will ever get down to typical monitor sizes.

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16 minutes ago, strider1 said:

If guys ever get the opportunity to test a VA panel next to wide color gamut IPS panel, you never go back to a VA panel! Thats why people love OLEDs its the best of both worlds! 

Ok so my 38 inch wide screen I have mounted next to my 43 inch TV is indeed an IPS monitor.  If I drag the sim window across both monitors the IPS does look slightly better.  But in no way is it a dealbreaker when it comes to gaming or flight simming.  Especially since the wide screen was almost three times the cost.

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1 hour ago, mpw8679 said:

Ok so my 38 inch wide screen I have mounted next to my 43 inch TV is indeed an IPS monitor.  If I drag the sim window across both monitors the IPS does look slightly better.  But in no way is it a dealbreaker when it comes to gaming or flight simming.  Especially since the wide screen was almost three times the cost.

What color gamut are using? When was the last time it was calibrated? You do release there are different grades of panels? The grade A panels are going to have the highest color gamut, more contrast, calibration tools, higher nits, etc.... With my asus panel I have the option of SRGB, Adobe RGB, DCI-P3, ASCR, etc....

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I have a 34" 2K asus curved g-sync monitor. I am extremely happy with it and I wouldn't change it BUT I don't use the whole width for P3D and I don't use the 'wide' option within P3D either. I do have a few ancillary programs running (map, etc) in the free space and that arrangement is how I like to have it set up.

no advice, just an experience...

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