Stefan888

Leonardo Software MD-90(potentially) Question

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Hi community,

Does anyone of you have any info will good old Leo make MD-90?I've heard from a guy on FS Elite(via comment) that there were rumors circulating around their facebook page that they could possibly make one.Bear with me,I don't have facebook so I can't see what's going on in their group so I can't come up with any conclusion on my own.

Maybe someone has a info he/she could share

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The rumor is that I heard from a friend from a friend's sister in law that he doesn't know anything about a MD90

May be it is wise to ask these kind of question directly to LeonardoSH...

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They already said just a few weeks ago no MD90 was planned. 

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1 hour ago, fakeflyer737 said:

They already said just a few weeks ago no MD90 was planned. 

Thank you for replying mate,but I believe that they said same thing for 83/88 at the beginning or am I mistaken.

Thanks for replying,

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35 minutes ago, Stefan888 said:

Thank for replying mate,but I believe that they said same thing for 83/88 at the beginning or am I mistaken.

Thanks for replying,

No, pretty sure they never said that.  The 83/88 was always planned but always slated for a separate release.  Same with a slew of other features.

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21 minutes ago, thibodba57 said:

No, pretty sure they never said that.  The 83/88 was always planned but always slated for a separate release.  Same with a slew of other features.

Ok thank you for replying.

So we can't expect MD-90 that's logical since there isn't any availabile data in Europe only operator that I am aware of is Delta.

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46 minutes ago, Stefan888 said:

Ok thank you for replying.

So we can't expect MD-90 that's logical since there isn't any availabile data in Europe only operator that I am aware of is Delta.

Makes sense, i didnt think anyone in Europe flew the 82 83 or the 88 anymore. 

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Are there any system differences between the MD-88 and the MD-90?

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1 hour ago, Stefan888 said:

Ok thank you for replying.

So we can't expect MD-90 that's logical since there isn't any availabile data in Europe only operator that I am aware of is Delta.

Depends on what you mean by expect.  I would never give an absolute answer to this as I don't have their development roadmap. But you can always show interest in it directly to the team.  They seem very receptive to input.

I was just saying they have never hidden the fact the 83/88 was coming at some point.

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7 minutes ago, Anders Bermann said:

Are there any system differences between the MD-88 and the MD-90?

Significant

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1 hour ago, thibodba57 said:

Significant

Interesting. Is it more modern?

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28 minutes ago, Anders Bermann said:

Interesting. Is it more modern?

Not necessarily as what you see on the flight deck (3D Modeling). But things like the engine EEC or whatever it uses would require the team to rework all three engine dynamics and performance they have modelled so far.  That would probably be the largest difference.  But that's not as small a thing as it sounds.  To put it in perspective. The team has gone so far as to as realistically as possible replicating engine start temps due to variances in ambient temperature.  All those small details would have to be redone.  And that's just the engines....

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Is the MD90 flight deck and avionics not similar to the 717?

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12 minutes ago, PATCO LCH said:

Is the MD90 flight deck and avionics not similar to the 717?

No (Exception is Saudia).  The MD-95 which became the B717 is when the transition really took place.

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13 minutes ago, PATCO LCH said:

Is the MD90 flight deck and avionics not similar to the 717?

Nope.Cockpit as well as systems are similar to MD 80 with some huge improvements in regards to engines,flight controls,brakes...etc.

Although Saudi Arabiain ordered an MD-90  that has a cockpit similar to MD-11 rather than 717

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What will they do then? AN MD-11??... THAT would be AWESOME!! They can't just simply stop the great phylosopy there... They must hide something under their sleeves...

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6 minutes ago, LH340fan said:

What will they do then? AN MD-11??... THAT would be AWESOME!! They can't just simply stop the great phylosopy there... They must hide something under their sleeves...

My personal opinion is that they could go for MD-11 since there are numerous companies still using MD-11 around Europe,as cargo plane tough,but MD-90 is only available in mainland US.

37 minutes ago, thibodba57 said:

Not necessarily as what you see on the flight deck (3D Modeling). But things like the engine EEC or whatever it uses would require the team to rework all three engine dynamics and performance they have modelled so far.  That would probably be the largest difference.  But that's not as small a thing as it sounds.  To put it in perspective. The team has gone so far as to as realistically as possible replicating engine start temps due to variances in ambient temperature.  All those small details would have to be redone.  And that's just the engines....

Agree we have lack of data on the MD-90

TFDI didn't get all the data for 717 and they are in US.

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Ok now you guys are stepping way off into the deepend.  I don't know how you made the connection between MD-80 and MD-11. This is one I'm certain I can say won't happen.

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12 minutes ago, thibodba57 said:

Ok now you guys are stepping way off into the deepend.  I don't know how you made the connection between MD-80 and MD-11. This is one I'm certain I can say won't happen.

Analytically you are right but when I read your comment regarding how much work has to be done to engines alone MD-90 also seems light years away if even that.

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It's all to the LH team to decide, cuz i don't buy the fact they would stop the line here. They have to prepare something. As Md-90 seems the easiest in terms of modelling it's true that it requires data tho. But I frankly don't think this would be an issue for them. after all, they did the rare -88 version,and I don't think it even features same thrust ratings as the -83 for example. However, as the team is to my knowledge based in Italy, it could be an issue, as there are 0 md-90s in europe whatsoever. On the other hand, the md-11 would be promising both in terms of success and commercially. In fact, I don't know any of the larger airports that don't see an ups or even fedex md-11 every couple of nights in europe. That being said, it can't be done on a day. As the MD-11 features two engine types (CF6-80 and PW4400) and could be found as pax, cargo or even freighter, that makes at least 4 versions, demanding different data in accordance. But it has tons of cool quarks; such as teh deflected ailerons or even the smaller stab and the legendary avionics. 

 

IMO it'll be a go-go for me if they ever do any of them. They just need some time and motivation. THEIR TEAM ROCKS. and the stuff they do is well worth the money IMO. In fact, I don't know about you but personnally I find their fares cheaper to PMDGs. (But hey,don't wanna start an argument again....)

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@LH340fan

Again we jump from MD-80 to MD-11.  While I sympathize with people wanting a quality MD-11.  I do NOT see it happening with Leonardo, not ever.  The only thing I can think the two aircraft in common is b@#$hin Betty.  Your best hopes for an -11 is from TFDI.

The -88 is almost the exact aircraft as the -83.  Same powerplant.  Some differences in systems up front is the only thing I can think of that really required programming.  So again the jump to the -90 is still a very big one.

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