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P3D V4 FA50 sound warping and strobe in cockpit

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I just bought the FA50 and I have to say I'm a little disappointed that two things that always bugged me about the LJ35 have been carried over into the Falcon--sound warping and seeing the strobe in the VC. Is there any chance that these are being looked into to be fixed?

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39 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

I just bought the FA50 and I have to say I'm a little disappointed that two things that always bugged me about the LJ35 have been carried over into the Falcon--sound warping and seeing the strobe in the VC. Is there any chance that these are being looked into to be fixed?

Alex,

What sim are you using? I don't see the strobe or rotating beacon in the VC with either a/c in FSX-SE or P3Dv4.4.

Al

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19 minutes ago, ark said:

Alex,

What sim are you using? I don't see the strobe or rotating beacon in the VC with either a/c in FSX-SE or P3Dv4.4.

Al

p3d v4.4

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9 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

p3d v4.4

Strange - don't know why the difference on what we see.   I have version 1.5b of the Falcon -- what version do you have?

Maybe others can comment on what they see regarding the 'beacon in the cockpit' issue.

Al

 

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I can confirm no strobe in VC. Not sure about the sound phasing. Still present in the Lear, but can't say I heard it in the Falcon.

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1 hour ago, RichieFly said:

I can confirm no strobe in VC. Not sure about the sound phasing. Still present in the Lear, but can't say I heard it in the Falcon.

It's like I bought a different product than you guys... now I have no idea what's going on...

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55 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

It's like I bought a different product than you guys... now I have no idea what's going on...

Alex,

I think I now know what is 'going on'. It turns out that because they changed the lighting system in P3dv4.4, external light, like from a beacon, can shine into the interior model depending on how close the light source is to 'where you are' in the model -- this is a known P3D4.4 issue. So in the Falcon, I can see the beacon if I go back into the cabin because the beacon is located on the tail. But apparently the VC is far enough away from the beacon so I don't see it in the VC. Also, ver 1.5b of the Falcon has 'smaller' lights then the original release, so depending on what version you have, that may also make a difference. FSW will be releasing an update soon for the Falcon 50, so that may change what you are seeing. 

Al 

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I checked and there's the sound phasing in the new version.

I'm trying to install the older version to check it and I can't get it to install. It won't go past the serial number / name screen. Any ideas as to why?

Thanks

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46 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

I checked and there's the sound phasing in the new version.

I'm trying to install the older version to check it and I can't get it to install. It won't go past the serial number / name screen. Any ideas as to why?

Thanks

As far as I know, there has not been any changes made to the sound files in the different versions of the Falcon 50.

Al

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OK. Must be something I didn't notice. Thanks.

I sent a message to FSW so I can reinstall. I guess I installed too many times testing things out...

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I've had the sound warp since the the first Beta version I got. It's always been there on my end. Only in the Falcon 50. 

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If you search sound warping on Avsim or FS Developer there is nothing ever mentioned. If you search google there is 2 topics and they talk about sound drivers or sound settings. I have never had a sound warping issue. Can someone make a video so we can hear it?

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9 hours ago, Flysimware said:

If you search sound warping on Avsim or FS Developer there is nothing ever mentioned. If you search google there is 2 topics and they talk about sound drivers or sound settings. I have never had a sound warping issue. Can someone make a video so we can hear it?

Might be because I'm using the wrong terminology... it's more commonly known as sound phasing. Here's an old thread on it. Funny enough I had the same issue back in 2011 with another add-on so I'm in that thread as well. I can try to make a video tonight.

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22 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

Might be because I'm using the wrong terminology... it's more commonly known as sound phasing. Here's an old thread on it. Funny enough I had the same issue back in 2011 with another add-on so I'm in that thread as well. I can try to make a video tonight.

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Thanks will read this later. I still want to hear the sound because i am not sure i ever hear this before.

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I literally just purchased the aircraft tonight and can confirm both issues above - Beacon light is visible in the VC and sound phasing which occurs if you switch to external view then back to internal.


Aaron

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1 hour ago, adl320 said:

I literally just purchased the aircraft tonight and can confirm both issues above - Beacon light is visible in the VC and sound phasing which occurs if you switch to external view then back to internal.


Aaron

Are you seeing the Beacon in the VC, or in the passenger cabin? Using P3Dv4.4, I see the Falcon 50  beacon in the cabin but not in the VC as outlined in my post up above. If you are seeing the beacon in the VC, what sim?

Al

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I see it in the cabin as well. Using P3D 4.4 also.


Aaron

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2 hours ago, adl320 said:

I see it in the cabin as well. Using P3D 4.4 also.


Aaron

Well, that is strange. I just can't reproduce the beacon problem wrt to the VC in P3Dv4.4. Even with the VC dark (inst lights off) I can't see the beacon in the VC at night. I can only see it back in the passenger cabin. I'm using v1.6 of the Falcon50. Maybe FSW will have some ideas; I just don't know what to suggest at this point other than to simply turn the beacon off (which is the only solution with the same problem in the MU-2).

Al

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On 2/7/2019 at 9:25 AM, adl320 said:

I see it in the cabin as well. Using P3D 4.4 also.


Aaron

P3D V4 changed how there lighting works and now lights bleed into the interior model. Its a bummer too because we have a cool procedure that prevents bleeding in all the 32 bit sims.

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I'm also having sound issues. Its like a distorsion.. You can hear it on the preview video of the pulse landing light.

24 sec of this video. 

 

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I also experience the sound warping or distortion-- P3D v. 3.4xx

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17 hours ago, etopsbr said:

I'm also having sound issues. Its like a distorsion.. You can hear it on the preview video of the pulse landing light.

24 sec of this video. 

 

Yep, this is the sound phasing I was originally talking about.

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12 hours ago, Chapstick said:

Yep, this is the sound phasing I was originally talking about.

I have been waiting for someone to show me an example of the phasing. This way i know if its gone when i fix it. The noise from this vid is something i have been hearing for decades when you rotate the exterior view and so its normal to me as the camera would never move like that in real life. So i figured this was not the sound and other say when they change from exterior to interior. So i am like what sound are they talking about. 

Also for program like Chase plane and EXDOK does not use rotate around aircraft. So most people will not be bothered as rotate is not a realistic view. But i will try to fix it soon since it seems many users want this fixed.

To fix this you reverse the sound recording from 1 engine. But since this is a 3 engine aircraft i am not sure what to do.

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9 hours ago, Flysimware said:

I have been waiting for someone to show me an example of the phasing. This way i know if its gone when i fix it. The noise from this vid is something i have been hearing for decades when you rotate the exterior view and so its normal to me as the camera would never move like that in real life. So i figured this was not the sound and other say when they change from exterior to interior. So i am like what sound are they talking about. 

Also for program like Chase plane and EXDOK does not use rotate around aircraft. So most people will not be bothered as rotate is not a realistic view. But i will try to fix it soon since it seems many users want this fixed.

To fix this you reverse the sound recording from 1 engine. But since this is a 3 engine aircraft i am not sure what to do.

The problem is that it also start to phase inside the cockpit. Sometimes when you pan around the panels, sometimes out of knowwhere.. I hope you can find a way to fix it. 

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