Chocorua

Moving the GTN with no bezel (resolved)

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Is it possible to drag and resize the GTN750 when the bezel is removed? I ask because I'd like to move it onto the RealSImGear GTN screen but cannot unless I leave the bezel. Wondering if I'm missing something here?   

Thanks,

Greg

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Have you tried right clicking it and selecting "Undock Window" - I use that for my Emuteq window using the GNS.

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Hi, thanks David. That is the issue, there is no menu when right clicking to display "Undock Window or Close Window" as is normal for an opened panel window. If I remove the bezel (by editing the .ini file) I'm unable to drag it or undock it. Enabling the bezel allows it to function 'normally' again.   

Greg  

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Hi,

this is a good question. I'd suspect because the entire screen becomes the clickable region, Fltsim removes the possibility to active the embedded popup menu. This would require leaving an area for this in the window, unfortunately this would preclude using the touch screen in these 'excluded' areas too.

One way to do it though: edit the panel.cfg file to change the gauge size.

If using the GTN Panel Assistant menu, all 'managed' gauge## entries use the 'percent' coordinate system, that is a single GTN in a window will have 100,100 for its width,height parameters. Just change the width from100 to 80 for example, which should leave the right hand side of the window free for the embedded popup menu!

Alternatively, I'm not sure this works but you could change the Reality.GTN.ini file to add a fixed size pixel border around the nobezel screen (for 10 pixels around, use: border.size = 10  ) and optionally make it 'red' for better visuallization (border.rgba = #F00). The surrounding area shouldn't be clickable and let the embedded menu display. Once positioned, you may keep the border size and revert to 'black' instead (border.rgba = #000000).

NB: even when using a border size, the SHIFT + LEFT click the top edge to quickly resize the gauge to 1:2 / 1:1 works by native size! In this case, with a nobezel = true AND a border size in pixels, you'll still get 1:2 / 1:1 original screen pixel sizes (in other words, the pixels would be considered 'outside' the screen size).

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Thanks kindly for your reply. I've been able to (although quite tedious!) locate spots on the extreme corners of the unit, that with some patience, get the drop menu to appear and thus allow me to undocked the unit. Also before this discovery, have done some size editing similar to your suggestions with no difference. I''ll jump back into it and try some more. 

Must say though, when the GTN750 is undocked, dragged, and sized to fit the RealSimGear 750 touch screen...wow, what a treat it is to operate! I had and liked the GNS530 combo but the GTN is just superb.

Thanks, I'm off to edit and if I come up with something I'll report back.        

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18 minutes ago, Chocorua said:

have done some size editing similar to your suggestions with no difference. I''ll jump back into it and try some more. 

It might be because there is no background. You might want to add a non-transparent background color maybe:

background_color =  8,8,8

 

18 minutes ago, Chocorua said:

Must say though, when the GTN750 is undocked, dragged, and sized to fit the RealSimGear 750 touch screen...wow, what a treat it is to operate! I had and liked the GNS530 combo but the GTN is just superb.

Thank you for your kind words!

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OK, changing the width parameter to '98' gives a small margin to click on, as you stated, which enables the menu to drop. Just what I was looking for! 

Many thanks for your support and I'm looking forward to your future products.

Greg   

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Great! You might want to try the 'border.size' setting though: it will add a surrounding edge with a color of your choice, which you could not only grab, but also use as a edge/margin placement guide on your monitor, while preserving the normal screen aspect ratio for best legibility.

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When I was trying to setup the GTN 750 for positioning in my RealSImGear GTN 750 bezel, I ran into the same issue. By experimentation, I found that by left clicking on the bezeless 750, then going up to View,  then clicking Undock Window in the dropdown, I could freely move the 750 where ever I wanted to. It must remain undocked or it zooms right back to its frozen position. Once I was able to position the 750 into the RealSImGear bezel, you need to maximize the 750 window, then go into Full Screen mode. That removes the window header and fixes the 750 in place, it must remain undocked.

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18 hours ago, RXP said:

Great! You might want to try the 'border.size' setting though: it will add a surrounding edge with a color of your choice, which you could not only grab, but also use as a edge/margin placement guide on your monitor, while preserving the normal screen aspect ratio for best legibility.

Thank you! That works pretty well but I still have to move the mouse around to find the exact click spot.

 

10 hours ago, Fleahead said:

When I was trying to setup the GTN 750 for positioning in my RealSImGear GTN 750 bezel, I ran into the same issue. By experimentation, I found that by left clicking on the bezeless 750, then going up to View,  then clicking Undock Window in the dropdown, I could freely move the 750 where ever I wanted to. It must remain undocked or it zooms right back to its frozen position. Once I was able to position the 750 into the RealSImGear bezel, you need to maximize the 750 window, then go into Full Screen mode. That removes the window header and fixes the 750 in place, it must remain undocked.

Yes! This works pretty good and may be the quickest method to undocking.

Thank you very much for suggesting!

I'd say problem is resolved!

 

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