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A while back I heard about and started using Flai models for AI traffic coupled with AIG flightplans. After watching a youtube video on how to install the flightplans, I spent a few hours doing so and they work great! 

However, the airline density slider in P3dv4 doesn't seem to affect the number of ai aircraft at all. Anything between 1-100 gives the same number of commercial airplanes. I have checked this at several airports including KSFO, KORD, KSEA, OMDB, EDDM, EGLL, etc. If I set the slider to 0, then it turns the traffic off. 

I don't mind the visuals because it's great to see the extensive amount of aircraft at gates, taxiing, taking off, landing, etc but it really hits the performance hard so I want to limit the aircraft at busier airports.

Any thoughts on why the slider only turns traffic on (setting 1-100) or off (setting 0) instead of also setting the amount of aircraft? Is there a way to fix that or is it the nature of using Flai with AIG flightplans?

Thanks!

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Perhaps with AI traffic limiter using FSUIPC. I set to between 70-80 and get somewhat decent amount of traffic on the airport. However it is only working with paid FSUIPC. 

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 When you are using AIFP to install your traffic, notice that the AIG plans are defaulted to 1%. You want to randomize them using the flight plans, adjust activity level.

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I would never dream of using a setting of less than 100% for my AI planes. Anything less is not "as real as it gets" :wink:

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i set traffic to 1% with aig and got so much traffic i had to limit to 150 with fsuipc. and still everywhere traffic.  it's fantastic cant wait to see the full version.

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2 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

When you are using AIFP to install your traffic, notice that the AIG plans are defaulted to 1%. You want to randomize them using the flight plans, adjust activity level.

Thanks! Forgive me but I am no expert at this... how do I do that? 

I see under the "Flight Plan List" in AIFP it gives some numbers, for example "AC#10, SX-DGA, 1%." Is that the 1% you are talking about? How do I randomize those and adjust the activity level?

Thanks!

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2 hours ago, casv said:

Perhaps with AI traffic limiter using FSUIPC. I set to between 70-80 and get somewhat decent amount of traffic on the airport. However it is only working with paid FSUIPC. 

Thanks for the suggestion. I do not use FSUIPC so that is a "no go" for me.

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2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I would never dream of using a setting of less than 100% for my AI planes. Anything less is not "as real as it gets" :wink:

😂😂 Haha I hear ya! But flying into KSFO or KSEA with 15 fps isn't exactly "as real as it gets" either... :S 

Can we still use the phrase "As real as it gets" with P3d??? 😀

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10 minutes ago, tomcatman24 said:
2 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

When you are using AIFP to install your traffic, notice that the AIG plans are defaulted to 1%. You want to randomize them using the flight plans, adjust activity level.

Thanks! Forgive me but I am no expert at this... how do I do that? 

I see under the "Flight Plan List" in AIFP it gives some numbers, for example "AC#10, SX-DGA, 1%." Is that the 1% you are talking about? How do I randomize those and adjust the activity level?

Thanks!

I think I may have figured it out. 

Once in AIFP, do you click, "Flightplans", select "Adjust Activity Levels", select "Random", then click "%Adjust"?

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2 hours ago, tomcatman24 said:

I think I may have figured it out. 

Once in AIFP, do you click, "Flightplans", select "Adjust Activity Levels", select "Random", then click "%Adjust"?

Exactly, set the % to what you want and then just recompile.

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46 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

Exactly, set the % to what you want and then just recompile.

Great! Thanks!

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Can we still use the phrase "As real as it gets" with P3d??? 😀

Maybe we should just annoy the PC brigade with "as entertaining as it gets" :laugh:

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16 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Exactly, set the % to what you want and then just recompile.

What do the % numbers in AIFP indicate? Do those numbers correlate with the slider in P3d? Meaning, if a flightplan in AIFP is set to 21%, does that mean that flightplan becomes active when the slider in P3d is over 21? Or doesn't it work that way?

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Yes, the traffic percentage in aifp is referring to the traffic percentage in the sim.

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2 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Yes, the traffic percentage in aifp is referring to the traffic percentage in the sim.

Ok, thank you for all your help!

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If you want as "real as it gets" imho..get the new AIG Manager tool for AI....at AIG 😎

 

Bestest,

Bob M.

 

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If you want to bulk activity level for AIG...what is the format to insert in the box once you point to the traffic folders. Have read the documentation and still can't get the info in the box right.

Is it "1-20" or <1-100> or what keeps asking over and over and over :)

Thank you,

Bob M.

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You need to set in p3dv4 your Traffic Slider to 100%.....if and when I figure out the bulk thingy..great but if you want to do one traffic bgl...set the activity level 1-100..recommended by AIG. save and compile it and you should be good to go. Before you compile..look at the screen and make sure the 1% is changed and varying from 1-100...It will say 83 on 1; 15 on another and 75 on another and so on Look in the 4th column from the left in Flight Plan list!!..then compile it.

 

BobM.

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May I add two suggestions.

First, only modify the bigger airlines (Delta, Lufthansa, China Airlines , ... ) and keep the medium/smaller airlines as they are (1%). This will reduce traffic depending on the activity level set in P3d without loss of diversity.

Second, when you change activity levels range via AIFP, use the "maximize distribution across airports" option. This means that the most frequently used airports are being de-emphasized so traffic is more evenly distributed across the other airports.

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Thanks Nemo..well taken, if you want to do bulk activity and you select the traffic files from AIG and the little box comes up

https://imgur.com/9ZiIsTE

what do you enter? like: "1-99".. Don (the developer) says it will only do 1-99 but will do 100 in the next release so what do I type in the box and I guess save it and compile and the box will come up about "maximize the distribution....)?

Ten I'll go back and tweak the individula airlines and special paints.

BobM.

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17 minutes ago, unc1rlm said:

Thanks Nemo..well taken, if you want to do bulk activity and you select the traffic files from AIG and the little box comes up

https://imgur.com/9ZiIsTE

what do you enter? like: "1-99".. Don (the developer) says it will only do 1-99 but will do 100 in the next release so what do I type in the box and I guess save it and compile and the box will come up about "maximize the distribution....)?

Ten I'll go back and tweak the individula airlines and special paints.

BobM.

I've never seen this pop-up box. I usually open AIFP then "open traffic file from .bgl"  where I choose the traffic .bgl. which I want to modify from my ACI-OCI installations. When it is open I click on "Flight Plans" and choose "adjust activity".

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Ok, I didn't want to change each bgl individually but bulk then back to 1%..then work on the Delta, American etc....guess I could delete the Traffic bgls and start over...lol

BobM.

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17 hours ago, Nemo said:

Second, when you change activity levels range via AIFP, use the "maximize distribution across airports" option. This means that the most frequently used airports are being de-emphasized so traffic is more evenly distributed across the other airports.

That sounds like a good idea. But I don't see that option. Is it only available if you do the BGLs individually, not "bulk"? If so, how does it ensure an even spread when only dealing with one airline? What stops it allowing more flights to/from, say, EGLL, instead of seeing the wider picture from multiple ailines? It couldn't tell which airports are the most frequently used overall, only for that one airline.

Some airports are used by only one or maybe two airlines. Ryanair, for instance, specialises in this -- Bergamo the "other Milan airport", the other Warsaw airport, the other Frankfurt airport. Reducing the Ryanair traffic at those would reduce traffic at those completely, not allow more variety.

Pete

 

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