August 27, 20196 yr My son just bought a mobo (with M2 Storage) and i5 9600k for about $350.00 At first I told him he was crazy, but then I looked at the specs/ performance Crazy...like a fox! anyone else running an i5 9600k with p3d. and if so, thoughts my current proc is a very old and tired i7 2600K TIA, -Braun CPU Mark Relative to Top 10 Common Desktop CPUsAs of 27th of August 2019 - Higher results represent better performance Intel Core i7-8700K @ 3.70GHz 15,963 Intel Core i5-9600K @ 3.70GHz 13,534 Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.20GHz 12,031 Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz 11,169 Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz 11,110 Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.50GHz 10,074 Intel Core i7-4790 @ 3.60GHz 9,988 Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz 9,279 AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core 8,952 Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz 7,177 AMD FX-6300 Six-Core 6,389 PassMark Software © 2008-2019 CPU Value (CPU Mark / $Price )As of 27th of August 2019 - Higher results represent better value Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz 68.73 AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core 64.64 Intel Core i5-9600K @ 3.70GHz 61.81 AMD FX-6300 Six-Core 53.25 Intel Core i7-4790 @ 3.60GHz 49.94 Intel Core i7-8700K @ 3.70GHz 45.61 Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz 36.03 Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz 35.54 Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.20GHz 34.67 Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.50GHz 29.37 Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz 23.92 PassMark Software © 2008-2019 Edited August 27, 20196 yr by btacon
August 27, 20196 yr I don't run an i5 9600k, but, I would say that's a decent enough deal for mobo+cpu. For P3D, I would prefer an i7 (like the i7 9700k, which isn't too expensive and clocks well), unless I was on a budget. If on a budget, the cpu you mention is plenty good -- pair that with M.2 storage and it's rock n roll time. As a point of comparison, I made a similar jump (i7 2700K to i7 8700K) and it is quite an improvement, as you might expect. Still I think if you're going to spend the money, I'd spring for an i7 9700K instead -- you will thank yourself on approach to Heathrow. Our 2600K / 2700K's were great cpu's in their day, weren't they? I still have mine, so that I can fly FSX and the PMDG MD-11. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
August 28, 20196 yr The 9600K does not have a soldered integrated heatsink like its big brothers, is a six-core no-HT CPU, and only has 9MB of L3 cache. It'll work OK, but I second the opinion that the 9700K would be a much better choice for P3D, and frankly I'd rather have an 8th-Gen 8700K or 8086K than the 9600K based on what I've read about the 9600K w/r/t overclocking. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 29, 20196 yr 17 hours ago, w6kd said: The 9600K does not have a soldered integrated heatsink like its big brothers Do you by chance have any proof of this? As I thought the 9600k was simply a 9700k with HT-disabled. To the original poster... See specs in sig... I came from a 4790k @ 4.8 and a 2600k @ 4.8 before that, all have been nice jumps in performance. The 9600k is awesome I can run high settings with pay-ware airports and aircraft with heavy traffic and weather and maintain smooth flight. The bigger difference would be a RTX2080, it cuts through bad weather no problem, but yes very expensive. Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
August 29, 20196 yr 43 minutes ago, TurboKen said: Do you by chance have any proof of this? As I thought the 9600k was simply a 9700k with HT-disabled. To the original poster... See specs in sig... I came from a 4790k @ 4.8 and a 2600k @ 4.8 before that, all have been nice jumps in performance. The 9600k is awesome I can run high settings with pay-ware airports and aircraft with heavy traffic and weather and maintain smooth flight. The bigger difference would be a RTX2080, it cuts through bad weather no problem, but yes very expensive. Well, no. I went back to the articles I had saved on the 9th gen series (from around this time last year), and at the time, Intel had explicitly stated that the 9700K and 9900K were going to use STIM, and they had rather curiously omitted mention of the 9600K. Several of the articles opined that the omission meant the 9600K was going to be paste TIM. Looking through the current data, the 9600K does also have the soldered IHS, so you got me there, I've been going on some bad outdated speculation. But...that said, the 9600K is *not* a 9700K without HT. The 9700K is also not HT-enabled, but is an 8-core CPU with 12 MB L3 cache. The 9600K is 6-cores, no HT with 9 MB L3 cache. The 8700K/8086K and the 9900K have HT and 2 MB L3 cache per core (12/16MB). Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 30, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, w6kd said: But...that said, the 9600K is *not* a 9700K without HT. The 9700K is also not HT-enabled, but is an 8-core CPU with 12 MB L3 cache. The 9600K is 6-cores, no HT with 9 MB L3 cache. The 8700K/8086K and the 9900K have HT and 2 MB L3 cache per core (12/16MB). This cannot be emphasized enough. I9 12900K @5.2Ghz 64 GB DDR4, RTX 4090, Win 11 Pro, 15 TB on 5 SSD's
August 30, 20196 yr On 8/29/2019 at 10:19 AM, w6kd said: Looking through the current data, the 9600K does also have the soldered IHS, so you got me there, I've been going on some bad outdated speculation. But...that said, the 9600K is *not* a 9700K without HT. The 9700K is also not HT-enabled, but is an 8-core CPU with 12 MB L3 cache. The 9600K is 6-cores, no HT with 9 MB L3 cache. The 8700K/8086K and the 9900K have HT and 2 MB L3 cache per core (12/16MB). OK. good to know it is soldered, I was thinking I was going to be performing a de-lid this weekend. (although I have heard it can still be done, just more difficult) That's right, there is the difference in cache also... Edited August 30, 20196 yr by TurboKen Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
September 5, 20196 yr Author Thanks to all who replied. My son's box is built now and its a screamer! (at least for him LoL). The price delta between the i59600K and the i79700K is about $250.00 US. For now I think I am taking the lower cost route unless prices shift dramatically over the next 3 to 4 months, at which time I will be upgrading my system. -Braun
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