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Just got Env Force - Config/setup/use recommendations?

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So I decided to get Rex's environment force care of their fall sale - and Im just wondering - whats the best way to use it?  I know there's a post on using sky force with AS and ASCA ect - but is there something similar for this?  From what I understand this would be a replacement for ASCA - so I'd use something like ASP4 for weather, and Skyforce and Env force for everything else?  Or am I just way off base on what apps do what these days?


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If you’ll check this forum for a topic entitled ‘Environment Force discussion thread’, you’ll most likely gain some valuable insights and tips from other users (as I sure did).  There are currently 900+ replies and I learned a lot about using the tool.  

Dig down to page 11 of this forum & check it out.  

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2 minutes ago, joby33y said:

If you’ll check this forum for a topic entitled ‘Environment Force discussion thread’, you’ll most likely gain some valuable insights and tips from other users (as I sure did).  There are currently 900+ replies and I learned a lot about using the tool.  

Dig down to page 11 of this forum & check it out.  

Cheers, 

Sweet - Ill take a look.


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Oof - wish I started reading this sooner.  Seems like theres still quite some issues.  Either way - I at least have it in the arsenal incase I want to install.


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Oof - wish I started reading this sooner.  Seems like theres still quite some issues.  Either way - I at least have it in the arsenal incase I want to install.

 

Edit: so I've been reading this post over 10 pages deep now and I'm more confused than ever.  I feel like we need another guide to include the EF options lol.

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Its really quite simple. Install Skyforce, then install Environmentforce.

Then only open Environmentforce as it will interact with Skyforce automatically. Just use automatic mode (default)

Next start P3d and prepare to be amazed.

Been using it for months no problems.

If you don't like what you see initially there are many options that can be changed or you can simply download a new theme right there in the program. ENJOY!


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1 minute ago, TurboKen said:

Its really quite simple. Install Skyforce, then install Environmentforce.

Then only open Environmentforce as it will interact with Skyforce automatically. Just use automatic mode (default)

Next start P3d and prepare to be amazed.

Been using it for months no problems.

If you don't like what you see initially there are many options that can be changed or you can simply download a new theme right there in the program. ENJOY!

What would I need to do with ASP4/ASCA?  Thats the part that's jamming me up.  I feel like EF is a replacement for ASCA, but I keep reading people are using ASP4/ASCA/SF/EF all together, but then some posts contradict so I end up not sure which way to go.


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1 hour ago, pegruder said:

What would I need to do with ASP4/ASCA?  Thats the part that's jamming me up.  I feel like EF is a replacement for ASCA, but I keep reading people are using ASP4/ASCA/SF/EF all together, but then some posts contradict so I end up not sure which way to go.

Sorry I have not used those programs, So I cant say for sure.


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1 hour ago, TurboKen said:

Sorry I have not used those programs, So I cant say for sure.

You're strictly utilizing SF's weather engine?  How well does it work?  I only know Active skys offerings as they've been pretty much the standard for as long as I've been in simming.


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So for now I'm running ASP4, SF and EF, disabling ASCA (as it seemed redundant).  From some quick previews it looks pretty good.  Ill give it a go tomorrow to see what differences I notice on a full flight.


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12 hours ago, pegruder said:

What would I need to do with ASP4/ASCA?  Thats the part that's jamming me up.  I feel like EF is a replacement for ASCA

You can either disable ASCA (I just renamed its folder), or you can retain ASCA for its sky colours and effects. Just uncheck the ASCA cloud options because EF will be using SF's cloud textures (SF doesn't need to be running).

ASP4 will still be controlling the actual weather. EF is just responsible for rendering the clouds.

Pete

 


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5 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

EF is just responsible for rendering the clouds.

 

 

+ the sky and water 😉


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2 hours ago, David Roch said:

+ the sky and water 😉

Oh, in that case I probably turned its sky options off in favour of ASCA.

Personal preferences I suppose.

I stopped using EF as it was costing some performance in P3D.

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2 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

 

I stopped using EF as it was costing some performance in P3D.

Just an FYI,

since the updates about 2 months ago I am not seeing the hit on FPS as it did when first released.


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20 hours ago, pegruder said:

You're strictly utilizing SF's weather engine?  How well does it work?  I only know Active skys offerings as they've been pretty much the standard for as long as I've been in simming.

Yes only SF and EF. It's very cool flying and seeing the clouds slowly dissipate in front of you. 


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