6 hours ago, AnkH said:

@fluffyflops how does this real traffic handle ground operations and ATC? Or is it simply filling the skies, silent but accurate?

This is the only little thing that makes me hesitate going for a "real" traffic addon based on current ADS-B data. 

There is a 5 min delay thats one draw back, I'd rather have 5 minute old traffic than 5 months or 2 years (with ut2) 

You won't find any monarchs, Thomas cooks, bmis or primeras flying around. 

You need a good ai pack though to go with it 

3 hours ago, AnkH said:

It is... for watchers... But not for being a pilot.
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But that is my personal opinion, of course, some might put the focus elsewhere...

My personal opinion is that it was great when I used it (before price plan changes). What impressed me as a pilot and made it immersive was seeing airliners stacked in a hold and also seeing aircraft ahead of me on the Canarsie approach at KJFK.

What really made the experience impressive was listening in to LiveATC and hearing the traffic directed all around me.

Not as simple to set up as the ridiculously easy AIM-OCI from AIG, but not difficult either.

I really tried to be patient with UTLive...
 

Edited November 15, 20196 yr by F737NG

 With ADS-B, there should be no delay at all. The major problem I have with the live traffic is that there are still far too many areas around the world with limited coverage as well as ground coverage. The idea of well spaced real world arrivals and routes is very cool, but FR (or whatever source) data is still pretty commonly iffy and the ground movements are still too sketchy for my use. It may work well at some places, but I want my airports well stocked with aircraft in the right places.

3 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

 With ADS-B, there should be no delay at all. The major problem I have with the live traffic is that there are still far too many areas around the world with limited coverage as well as ground coverage. The idea of well spaced real world arrivals and routes is very cool, but FR (or whatever source) data is still pretty commonly iffy and the ground movements are still too sketchy for my use. It may work well at some places, but I want my airports well stocked with aircraft in the right places.

I think what happens if you use lorbys tool is once the aircraft lands it then uses lorby which treats it as an ai traffic as normal and sends it to the gate using the correct afcad airline code assignment. The same with bgl or ut2 Injected traffic. 

I have to say so long as the afcad is correct and youve imported the runways. Csv file correctly into the lorby app the 2 programs work fantastic together. 

I find it Amazing across the pond for example you will see other a/c and your ai twin all around you (if you are using the real world flightplan) and if you look at FR24 you will be it perfectly accurate. 

Only issue is if you won't have a paint / ai model it spawns something else and some callsigns it gets a bit confused with, but this is easily changed in the lorby app so it remembers it next time. 

In the summer I was flying around Greece and Turkey abit I was amazed at the airlines spawning that never heard of. 

For me I love the live traffic aspect I'd never go back to old style so but that's just me., but you need a huge ai library.  I think I've got 3500 paints or something silly like that. 

 

Edited November 15, 20196 yr by fluffyflops

3 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

 With ADS-B, there should be no delay at all. The major problem I have with the live traffic is that there are still far too many areas around the world with limited coverage as well as ground coverage. The idea of well spaced real world arrivals and routes is very cool, but FR (or whatever source) data is still pretty commonly iffy and the ground movements are still too sketchy for my use. It may work well at some places, but I want my airports well stocked with aircraft in the right places.

There is no delay using Nico's PSXTseecon app.

15 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

I think I've got 3500 paints or something silly like that. 

I am up to 6900 so far. I use AIG, FAIB, FSP. I have not tried Lorby's app, wondering how it compares to the taxing with Nico's app.  Might give it a whirl.

7 hours ago, AnkH said:

It is... for watchers... But not for being a pilot. Or do you find it immersive, when you sit on a gate for a flight into whatever destination and then you have to taxi to the runway and takeoff completely on your own just because the ATC you use is not aware about AI traffic and vice versa? Not for me, I then prefer not so realistic flights with a not so realistic ATC that at least knows I am there and other AI planes are around. But that is my personal opinion, of course, some might put the focus elsewhere...

I can use both if I wish, using AIG but not at the same time of course, It is so easy to enable one and disable the other. As you said, it's not for everyone.

Depends what type of flying I am going to do. Using live traffic approaching the Irish coast on the morning peak from the USA, listening to Shannon CTR on Live ATC, now that is immersive!!