39 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Forgot to mention, highly recommend using a UPS for any electrical PC related connections.  Power consistency in our new location is not so great circa 2003 ... under high loads in P3D or XP (usually Orbx and PMDG/FSLabs and heavy weather) my UPS kicks in to keep load requirements consistent and compensate for line droop.

Sadly single 15A line.

Cheers, Rob

As an ex-UK resident, Rob, wise words,but in the 30+years I have lived in this house, the only time we have ever experienced a power outage was when a very heavy thunderstorm hit a local sub-station.Since then, more than over a decade ago, nary a supply line trip. Fingers crossed🤞

16 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I wasn't referring to power outages, I was referring to drawing more power than home circuits can supply on single line ... on the edge of triggering a fuse ... under such high loads the voltage drops on the home line.  Example in the US what might normally be 116V on input line when the loads increase that may drop to 101V or less ... a good UPS will kick-in to bring the power backup to 120V (or close to).  This varies based on how well the home is built and power to home, whats on the single line, etc. ... so not really a power outage, just high loads causing line droop.  A good UPS and line conditioner will ensure enough clean power is being provided in high line load conditions.

It may or may not apply to you or you may not care, just passing along my experience.

Cheers, Rob.

Far from not caring, it is a very valid alert you do raise. I have used and made sure I did have a back-up UPS when abroad, where power tripped quite often, and I also see the link to home circuits, fuse triggering, etc. I was merely countering that it did not particularly appertain to me. but that in no way reduces the highlight you rightfully raised.

3 hours ago, vc10man said:

As an ex-UK resident, Rob, wise words,but in the 30+years I have lived in this house, the only time we have ever experienced a power outage was when a very heavy thunderstorm hit a local sub-station.Since then, more than over a decade ago, nary a supply line trip. Fingers crossed🤞

As an indonesia (East Java) resident I have a similar experience in reverse.

I cannot recall the last time in which I had electricity, water and Internet at the same time for a full 24 hours. (at least six months ago) I can only dream of your conditions.

Tony

26 minutes ago, himmelhorse said:

As an indonesia (East Java) resident I have a similar experience in reverse.

I cannot recall the last time in which I had electricity, water and Internet at the same time for a full 24 hours. (at least six months ago) I can only dream of your conditions.

Tony

I had that, Tony, every single day, when I was on long term vacation in India. And the outages could last from a 1/2 hour to over 5 hours😡

It's a daily hazard suffered by locals and tourists too. And it's not just limited to electricity. Add water to it too, yet the same country can spend a vast amount of its GDP on defence. Aircraft carriers, submarines, etc, etc.Fighting whom? I'll leave you to guess. A complete joke. No wonder it's called the Third World!

Rick,

YAY ... somebody who understands.

Our problem is not defence spending so much.

It all starts because basically nobody except medium to large businesses and people who have money in the bank do not pay taxes regardless of income. 

This means no money for infrastructure, which was mostly put in place by the Dutch before Independence, and poorly maintained since.  We have reports of kids flying kites with cotton strings breaking steel electricity cables. 

Then you can add in the corruption component and all of the above leads to no real surprises "why" but does not lead to any positive steps to rectification.

The really surprising thing is that, as an Australian expat, I actually choose to live here.  Human nature????

regards

Tony  

10 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

We have reports of kids flying kites with cotton strings breaking steel electricity cables.

That's because if they are as savvy as kids in India who also fly kites and have 'kite wars' with other neighbourhood kites in the air, they crush soft drinks bottles glass into a powder, mix it with rice glue, then spread it on their kite strings, and it is that abrasive glass-embedded strings that severs through overhead power supply lines.

10 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

The really surprising thing is that, as an Australian expat, I actually choose to live here.

On my way to Perth at a stop-over in Medan, in the late 90s, an Aussie who worked in the oilfields in Indonesia, told me a tale of a recently-crashed LionAir 737 and how within hours locals were flogging belongings salvaged from the dead in that crash to the oil workers camp. How ghoulish!

Or of the time he was on an internal ATR and how the left side prop came off and sliced through the cabin literally yards from where he was sat. But he was still typically Aussie, pretty stoic about it. Hats off to him!

That recollection by him perhaps shed light why Indonesian carriers were banned for a while in European skies.

Rick.

I have never seen a kite war here.  The reason that string cuts steel cable is a total lack of any form of maintenance since 1947 or whenever the Dutch left here. If it aint broken yet, why fix it???? 

I have been standing on my street (I use the word loosely LOL) and watched as a cable just snapped and entirely without the assistance of kite strings too.

Most Indonesians are really so poor ... absolutely no welfare here, and I have heard of bridges collapsing because the locals steel the bolts at night for sale as scrap metal. Long time ago I must admit but there are so many similar stories.   

I see things like this and my favourite expression comes to the fore ...  T.I.I (This IS Indonesia) 

Despite all the trials and tribulations, this really is a fabulous place to live and the people are absolutely great.  I now, and for some time, call Indonesia. Home and I am happy to do so.

Regards

Tony

 

18 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I wasn't referring to power outages, I was referring to drawing more power than home circuits can supply on single line ... on the edge of triggering a fuse ... under such high loads the voltage drops on the home line.  Example in the US what might normally be 116V on input line when the loads increase that may drop to 101V or less ... a good UPS will kick-in to bring the power backup to 120V (or close to).  This varies based on how well the home is built and power to home, whats on the single line, etc. ... so not really a power outage, just high loads causing line droop.  A good UPS and line conditioner will ensure enough clean power is being provided in high line load conditions.

It may or may not apply to you or you may not care, just passing along my experience.

Cheers, Rob.

 

I suspect this is more of a US issue. Never had a UPS here in the UK. In decades. No issue. 

I use a 1.5 design factor when I size my PSUs, so if I expect to see 500VA at the wall, I want a minimum 750VA-rated PSU.  I don't use watts, which fails to account for the AC line load power factor.

The price differential between PSUs in the 600-900W range is pretty small.  When there's an option, I prefer to overspec the PSU some.

In my 9900K portable rig I used that Corsair RM850 PSU referenced by the OP upthread.  I think it was ~$15 more and maybe 4 oz heavier than their 750.