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P3Dv4.5 - Environment sounds almost completely gone

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With change from Windows 7 to Windows 10 my Environment sounds suddenly has become barely hearable. Most irritating in that respect is the major absence of AI traffic sounds! 
Currently my sliders inside P3Dv4.5 sound section are set to 100% for Environment sliders and around 50% for anything else!  

My audio hardware setup and basic software has been the same from win7 to win10. The only primarily differences are these:

1. Change of PC's, from an old Intel based PC with Radeon graphic boards installed to the present Intel i9 version with a nVidia 2080 graphic board.
2. From P3Dv4.3 to P3Dv4.5
3. AI traffic, from My Traffic Professional to Ultimate Traffic Live

As it seems I'm rather alone with this irritating problem and unfortunately had no success whatsoever in my efforts contacting the support fora for P3D and Flight1/Ultimate Traffic Live.
Therefor I would much appreciate any help from you guys in order to solve this mysterious problem!
Until now I think I've tried everything without any success, including of course, changing from SOUND_LOD=1 to SOUND_LOD=0

Cheers           

Phillip Seedorff

Setup:
ASUS PRIME Z370-P i9 9900K 16GB-DDR4 nVidia RTX4070TI Win10 64 1909 PRO1863 USB earphones Artic7 Steel3 and s/pdif opt.7.1 surround Denon amp P3DV5.4/MSFS  ASP/ASCA ProATC/X  AIGAIM-OCI  Multimonitor setup

Just one thought, based upon my recent upgrade to P3d4.5. Try uninstalling Ultimate Traffic Live.

My rationale for the suggestion is that I couldn't get P4d4.5 to boot correctly with UTL.  UTL formerly worked with 4.3, but not with 4.5.

Just a thought, since no two installs,let alone PC's can be alike! 

Good luck.

 

1 hour ago, slimfly said:

My audio hardware setup and basic software has been the same from win7 to win10. The only primarily differences are these:

So what is controlling the speakers? The motherboard, graphics card or a separate sound card? Might be as simple as updating the sound driver.

-J

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Go to Control Panel -> Sound, select the "Communications" tab, and make sure "do nothing" is ticked.

 

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Thank you guys for your kind suggestions!

On 1/11/2020 at 11:25 PM, charlie130 said:

Just one thought, based upon my recent upgrade to P3d4.5. Try uninstalling Ultimate Traffic Live.

My rationale for the suggestion is that I couldn't get P4d4.5 to boot correctly with UTL.  UTL formerly worked with 4.3, but not with 4.5.

Just a thought, since no two installs,let alone PC's can be alike! 

Good luck.

An interesting suggestion, as no addon is new from the Win7 version to the Win10 version - EXCEPT for the UTL AI addon!!
I will now execute an image backup for my current setup and then uninstall UTL and see if it makes any difference to the Environment sound!

On 1/12/2020 at 12:32 AM, Twenty6 said:

So what is controlling the speakers? The motherboard, graphics card or a separate sound card? Might be as simple as updating the sound driver.

As successfully operated in previous Win7,  USB earphones Artic7 Steel3 and s/pdif opt.7.1 surround Denon amp are as well controlled by these factors in my new Win10 environment  - that is, away from Realtek onboard and nVidia sound drivers which are disabled.  Everything is updated anyway, including all sound drivers. So no mess there.

On 1/12/2020 at 1:37 AM, w6kd said:

Go to Control Panel -> Sound, select the "Communications" tab, and make sure "do nothing" is ticked.

 

Been through that - unfortunately no difference!

Cheers
    

 

Phillip Seedorff

Setup:
ASUS PRIME Z370-P i9 9900K 16GB-DDR4 nVidia RTX4070TI Win10 64 1909 PRO1863 USB earphones Artic7 Steel3 and s/pdif opt.7.1 surround Denon amp P3DV5.4/MSFS  ASP/ASCA ProATC/X  AIGAIM-OCI  Multimonitor setup

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BTW, any other suggestions for an alternative to UTLive...?! 
(As always with Flight 1 products, their user interface is unfortunately pretty bad in general. Had to uninstal UTLive manually, going through numbers of fora in order to manage!) 

Phillip Seedorff

Setup:
ASUS PRIME Z370-P i9 9900K 16GB-DDR4 nVidia RTX4070TI Win10 64 1909 PRO1863 USB earphones Artic7 Steel3 and s/pdif opt.7.1 surround Denon amp P3DV5.4/MSFS  ASP/ASCA ProATC/X  AIGAIM-OCI  Multimonitor setup

35 minutes ago, slimfly said:

BTW, any other suggestions for an alternative to UTLive...?!


See this thread.
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/569155-traffic-globa-or-utl-ease-of-instulation/

Almost uniform response to the question asked.
(Spoiler: Neither of the two suggested options were widely recommended).
 

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On 1/13/2020 at 10:58 PM, F737NG said:


See this thread.
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/569155-traffic-globa-or-utl-ease-of-instulation/

Almost uniform response to the question asked.
(Spoiler: Neither of the two suggested options were widely recommended).
 

Thanks for this link, which lead me to uninstall UTL and install AIG!
I didn't get any more AI sound out from that - However, the simplicity of the AIG structure made it much easier for me to edit the cfg's and individual *.waw sounds right away! So now I'm up running again in a fantastic AI sound environment!
With a sound editor app I amplified all sounds by 400% - I know it seems crazy, but nevertheless, that's what it really took to normalize my AI sounds in my particular setup! Cool rumbling jets and thundering reverse engine sounds all over the place - as real as it gets at any airport!
Never did find out what actually suppressed all my AI sounds, going from Win7 to Win10, but never mind that...I finally found a workaround!!  

Cheers        

 

Edited by slimfly

Phillip Seedorff

Setup:
ASUS PRIME Z370-P i9 9900K 16GB-DDR4 nVidia RTX4070TI Win10 64 1909 PRO1863 USB earphones Artic7 Steel3 and s/pdif opt.7.1 surround Denon amp P3DV5.4/MSFS  ASP/ASCA ProATC/X  AIGAIM-OCI  Multimonitor setup

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