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Any pilots here had HD Lasik?

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I already scheduled an appointment for HD Lasik surgery and I'm going to return to training for my private pilot's license soon and want to get my instrumental rating as well because I want to fly at night as well. Now the thing that concerns me is my night vision after the HD Lasik and how the flap will affect my vision and lifestyle. Any pilots here that had Lasik or HD Lasik?

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Can't comment on the Lasik, but you do not need an instrument rating to fly at night...

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It is helpful though. :-hah----------------------------------------------------------------John MorganReal World: KGEG, UND Aerospace Spokane Satillite, Private ASEL 141.2 hrs, 314 landings, 46 inst. apprs.Virtual: MSFS 2004"There is a feeling about an airport that no other piece of ground can have. No matter what the name of the country on whose land it lies, an airport is a place you can see and touch that leads to a reality that can only be thought and felt." - The Bridge Across Forever: A Love Story by Richard Bach

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I am a pilot who had Lasik, don't know what "HD" Lasik even is. Great results, great night vision although had this halo effect at night around streent lamps but this only was caused by sudden transition from light to darkness.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg

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Make sure it's allowed where you are. Here where I live LASIK will automatically get your medical cancelled (or denied). There may be a way to fight that after a period, but you're effectively grounded for at least a year (and as your license needs to be kept current every year that means you loose it).

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There were concerns about pilots who experience high G-loadings. The flap could become detached under high loadings ...

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There was a lawsuit in Arizona where an America West pilot was suing the doctor who did the Lasik procedure. The pilot lost his medical and his ATP rating.Military pilots - last time I heard - about January - cannot have Lasik at all.Hopefully the FAA and medical community have gotten over that concerns.I would recommend that before you have anything done to your eyes, you get your flight surgeon to review and approve the procedure in writing. Yes it will cost some extra money - but not doing so could cost you the skies.And I'm not talking about the extremely slim possibility the procedure could not be successful.

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I cancelled my appointment. Is there a place that I can call or a website I can go to to see a surgeon has done any malpractice in his history or gives an evaluation of lasik eye surgeons. I just wasn't sure if I wanted to go with this surgeon and still had some questions in my mind about the procedure that I wasn't sure of. More questions have cropped up since the last time I saw him.

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I believe there is an eye hospital in the UK which has a very advanced and new system based on something like inertial navigation where the eye ball is recreated graphically to perfection, adjusted to perfection and is giving 20+ vision. It was touted as giving fighter pilots super human vision although very expensive.The hospital was the leading eye hospital in London but will have to find out the name.Peter

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http://www.moorfields.org.uk/PrivatePatientsMatt Yes found the link :-) I believe they are the world leaders in this sort of surgery.Act in haste repent in leisure. If it was my eyes I would go to the best whatever the cost and regardless of making a trip to Europe.Peter

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I'd not have anyone cut into my eyes with either a scalpel or a laser unless the alternative were certain blindness.The risks are too great.

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Yes military pilots and those personel with jobs that require good vision without glasses are allowed to have lasik. It was only just a few years ago when they were not even allowing contact lenses for flyers.Terry

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>There was a lawsuit in Arizona where an America West pilot>was suing the doctor who did the Lasik procedure. The pilot>lost his medical and his ATP rating.Most likely he lost it temporarily.Before the lasik surgery I sent the question to Flying Magazine surgeon (they have an FAA medical doctor) and he replied that I will be not allowed to fly after the surgery for some period (I think it was 6 months). Since at the time I was not flying anyway it was not an issue for me.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg

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I have not had Lasik and think it's a bit risky for a pilot. A good friend, who is both a pilot and an opthomologist, recommended against Lasik as long as I was getting good vision from contacts and/or glasses.

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You are entitled to you opinion. Not sure why risky for pilots and not anyone else. If it is risky it is risky, period. By the way I completely disagree that it is risky based on the careful research I did before I had the operation. It all depends what your threshold of risk is. There are people that think getting out of a bed every day is risky - no doubt there is a risk involved. In my case it was the best $1700 I ever spent on anything. Frankly my confidence/performance as a pilot got significant boost. No longer do I have to worry about my glasses not being clean, giving me poor peripheral vision, looking at everything at a smaller scale, having distorted view or my contacts falling off in the worst possible moment on approach. Not to mention that for me a scuba diver it made life so much easier.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg

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Did your surgeon use intralasik or the microkeratome to make your flap?

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Michael,The promise of Lasik is very appealing. I'd love to throw out my glasses and not have to mess with contact lenses. Since my corrected vision with contacts or glasses is 20/20 and the risks associated with them are well understood and very low, a Lasik procedure is not a necessity for me. As a professional pilot, I must keep my medical to keep my job, so my risk assessment might be different than another person's.I'm glad to hear you got good results, though.John

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>Did your surgeon use intralasik or the microkeratome to make>your flap?I don't even know what these terms mean. I had my Lasik done at least 4-5 years ago when some of the fancy stuff was not yet available. So my flap was cut - this was the only a bit painful meoment. He told me I would feel a pressure but it was a sense of having a blade running across my eye. It lasted 3 seconds.I had my surgery done by Harvard educated dr. Scott Hyver (hopefully I spelled his name right) who performs many such operations every day and who was contracted to perform Lasik on the 49-ers football team. Recently I got some flyers from him about some new techniques available. I have now 20/20 vision though my right eye could have been slighly better giving me 20/15. My right eye had significant amount of astigmatism that never got fully corrected. My vision before the operation was so poor I could not read a book from a distance of 4 inches. I always feared that one day I would have to get up quickly in the middle of a night due to some emergency and not being able to see things around me - putting contacts on takes some time (I guess having spare glasses make sense). You can imagine my joy when I woke up a day after the procedure and was able to see small birds half a mile away.Dr. Scott like probably many fully qualified eye surgeons makes complete evaluation (it is free) of your eyes before the procedure. Some people simply don't qualify for it. If he perceives any risk he won't touch you. I don't know what the criteria is.I picked him because he came recommeneded by my local employer - NASA Ames Research Center. I know two other PPL/IFR guys who had Lasik with great results. Some of them paid double of what I paid - prices vary greatly but it is important not to make doctor selection strictly on price.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg

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It was a simple 15 sec search on google - Dr. Scott Hyver has a website. You can read all about the latest technology offered. Famous Bill Walsh (49-ers coach) was one of his clients. I may go back one day and have my right eye corrected. It is nice about Lasik - you can go back and have it redone. Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg

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