So for some reason I seem to get really low FPS when I try load a flight at KLAX even though I have most graphics set to medium or lower in P3D. I can load a flight at KSFO with the Flightbeam scenery and the PMDG 747 and get around 17-20FPS which isn't great but decent enough to be able to make a flight. However when I load up at FSDreamteam KLAX  I can only seem to get around 6-10FPS.  Now I admit I did have ORBX Southern California installed at one point but have since uninstalled it even though It didn't seem to make much difference. I also have ORBX Vector and Global installed and have tried lowering their settings as well which seemed to help a little at other airports but didn't seem to make any difference at KLAX.

 

So does anyone have any suggestions how I can improve the FPS at LAX when I have already tried turning my settings down and uninstalling addons that use a lot of resources like ORBX SoCal. This is my home airport IRL and it would be nice to be able to make flights out of there again.

 

Here is what my CFG looks like.

 

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Try reduce the FreewayDensity=54. If you still want some road traffic, 10 is fine. Should give you at least 2-3 fps. Road traffic with Orbx ist quite fps heavy!

Edited May 9, 20206 yr by Ronaldo1978

5 hours ago, Ronaldo1978 said:

Try reduce the FreewayDensity=54. If you still want some road traffic, 10 is fine. Should give you at least 2-3 fps. Road traffic with Orbx ist quite fps heavy!

Thanks I will give that a try. Yeah I know ORBX can be bad for FPS. However I figured uninstalling the scenery for SoCal would help and I did turn down a lot of the vector settings such as tertiary roads and bridges and some other stuff but I guess that wasn't enough.

JT, I mentioned this in the other thread about what worked for me being turning HT off.  Instead of using affinity mask try going into BIOS and turn HT off. fire up the sim and see what happens.  It worked absolute wonders for me.

15 minutes ago, ywg256 said:

JT, I mentioned this in the other thread about what worked for me being turning HT off.  Instead of using affinity mask try going into BIOS and turn HT off. fire up the sim and see what happens.  It worked absolute wonders for me.

Same. I also had issues with LAX in V5 but with HT off my FPS went up and everything was fluid. For ref I have a 9900k, 2080gtx.

3 hours ago, ywg256 said:

JT, I mentioned this in the other thread about what worked for me being turning HT off.  Instead of using affinity mask try going into BIOS and turn HT off. fire up the sim and see what happens.  It worked absolute wonders for me.

I don't see anywhere to turn off HT in my bios. I looked under CPU setup in bios and had a few option but non to do with Hyperthreading. I have a I5 4460 cpu.

Edited May 9, 20206 yr by jt233

3 hours ago, YVRDXBLHR said:

Same. I also had issues with LAX in V5 but with HT off my FPS went up and everything was fluid. For ref I have a 9900k, 2080gtx.

Don't know if it matters but I have V4, also my specs are nowhere near as good as yours but can still get ok FPS at most places besides LAX

 

My specs are

I5 4460 at 3.2ghz 

Nvidia GTX 750TI 

12GB DDR3 memory

Edited May 9, 20206 yr by jt233

Just wanted to give an update on this issue but I just deleted the P3D CFG and now I am getting around 30FPS with even was able to start increasing some of the settings again and am still getting 30FPS. Im so happy to finally be able to start making flights again from my home airport.

Edited May 10, 20206 yr by jt233

10 hours ago, jt233 said:

I don't see anywhere to turn off HT in my bios. I looked under CPU setup in bios and had a few option but non to do with Hyperthreading. I have a I5 4460 cpu.

Your CPU does not do Hyperthreading.

I have the same problem where i get only 15-19 FPS at max settings at KLAX. At other addon airports i get around 40-60 FPS depending on the scenery details.  I also figured out that my problem is caused by GSX. the moment i disable GSX from the fsx menu, My FPS jump to 40+. Unfortunately with GSX disabled, all the jetways disappear in KLAX.This is by far the strangest thing ive seen after using tons of addon sceneries. Another reason might be that FSDT products are not well optimized like the FlightBeam and Aerosoft products which i use on daily basis. I always get 30+ FPS at max settings on other heavy addon airports like Mega Airport Frankfurt by Aerosoft. FSDT Sceneries are without any doubt the best looking but unfortunately they are badly optimized which causes serious lag even for high end systems.

 

My Specs - 

i7-8750H @ 4Ghz

Nvidia gtx 1070 8gb

32gb Ram.

LAX has always been a tough area for me too, right up there with Chicago, NYC, London, etc.

Combination of the airport scenery, LA basin in general, numerous GSX and auto gen assets, etc.  Running max settings is likely going to be impossible there.  Even default can be rough there.

If you discover anything, let us know.  Good luck.

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by CaptKornDog
Spelling error

On 6/3/2022 at 10:16 PM, Shahzeb Humayun said:

I have the same problem where i get only 15-19 FPS at max settings at KLAX. At other addon airports i get around 40-60 FPS depending on the scenery details.  I also figured out that my problem is caused by GSX. the moment i disable GSX from the fsx menu, My FPS jump to 40+. Unfortunately with GSX disabled, all the jetways disappear in KLAX.This is by far the strangest thing ive seen after using tons of addon sceneries. Another reason might be that FSDT products are not well optimized like the FlightBeam and Aerosoft products which i use on daily basis. I always get 30+ FPS at max settings on other heavy addon airports like Mega Airport Frankfurt by Aerosoft. FSDT Sceneries are without any doubt the best looking but unfortunately they are badly optimized which causes serious lag even for high end systems.

Why you are posting this in the P3D forum, when your post about supposedly low fps at KLAX was with FSX ? Now, I haven't got the time to reply to you, because you posted last Friday and I need some time to check this but, what's clear, and should be already clear from this post, is the problem is NOT the scenery supposedly "not optimized". How you could possibly say the *scenery* is not "optimized", when you said yourself that, in your case, disabling GSX improved the fps ? More on later but, let's see how KLAX REALLY runs in P3D V5:

This is with GSX ( of course ) and with the default 737:

 

Now with the PMDG 737:

 

 

I don't have OrbX or any other scenery installed, but the extremely good fps with the PMDG proves the scenery and GSX are NOT the problem.

Now, you are using FSX, and FSX is a completely different story, and I believe the problem here is (again) not the scenery, but rather the GSX Jetways, which are far way more detailed than the ones the scenery originally came with. They are EXTREMELY optimized, with multiple LOD levels, but I must say we optimized those for P3D, which has a *far* more efficient graphic engine than FSX, and I can see the fps drop as well on the same system WITH FSX.

The only option I can think of, is to provide FSX users with an optional download with the standard jetways instead of the GSX ones, which were made mostly taking into account P3D, but I can't say when we'll have time to do this, since we are working full time on finishing GSX for MSFS, that's another reason why I haven't replied to you on our forum, but I DID took the time to test the scenery in FSX, and yes, the frame rate drop happens there.

But it's NOT the scenery being supposedly "unoptimized", it's just that it was made more towards P3D, in which it clearly perform very well, as the above screenshot proves.