Just now, ChaoticBeauty said:

I'm not saying they will do so, but I just don't see why it would be impossible. It is Microsoft, if they really wanted to, they could probably whip up a study-level aircraft before release just by throwing tons of resources at it.

Sure but they're no charity. They could do that but then I'd expect to pay much more for it.

Just now, Tuskin38 said:

Asobo is also working with the aircraft manufacturers.

True but we don't know to what extent.

You only expect them to be expensive because you're used to paying expensively for them.

If Flight Sim had like 5 times as many addon developers doing the niche things, prices would drop because of competition.

Edited May 14, 20206 yr by Tuskin38

Just now, Tuskin38 said:

You only expect them to be expensive because you're used to being charged that.

Quite the contrary. I refused to purchase P3D v5 because I feel that their pricing policy is BS.

On the other hand, having Master's degree in Economics and knowing what it takes to develop a study level aircraft, I am not surprised about PMDG's and FSLabs prices at all. 🙂 You get what you pay for.

2 minutes ago, Thomasso said:

Sure but they're no charity. They could do that but then I'd expect to pay much more for it.

Honestly, securing partnerships with huge corporations/conglomerates like Boeing and Textron, then gaining access to aircraft for 3D scans and recordings, was probably exceptionally costly. The fact that almost all of the simulator's aspects have been like, totally overhauled since the previous instalments suggests that they have invested a humongous amount of resources into its development, and hiring more developers to speed up aircraft development would probably cost nearly nothing next to its overall budget. There is no reason to rush of course, but if having several study-level aircraft available at release was a priority, I'm sure they could do it.

1 minute ago, ChaoticBeauty said:

Honestly, securing partnerships with huge corporations/conglomerates like Boeing and Textron, then gaining access to aircraft for 3D scans and recordings, was probably exceptionally costly. The fact that almost all of the simulator's aspects have been like, totally overhauled since the previous instalments suggests that they have invested a humongous amount of resources into its development, and hiring more developers to speed up aircraft development would probably cost nearly nothing next to its overall budget. There is no reason to rush of course, but if having several study-level aircraft available at release was a priority, I'm sure they could do it.

Fair point.

However, I still believe that developing a complex aircraft is more complicated than any other task they had.

I could be wrong of course. Weather modeling must be quite complicated too. And other stuff 🙂

13 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

If Flight Sim had like 5 times as many addon developers doing the niche things, prices would drop because of competition.

That's possible but not certain. The economy isn't that simple. You can't guarantee that more competitors in an industry will drive the price down. It's one possible outcome but not certain one.

Thomasso doesn't know what he's talking about. I think most of us can agree on that. Let's move on.

1 minute ago, Krakin said:

Thomasso doesn't know what he's talking about. I think most of us can agree on that. Let's move on.

Whereas your comment has so much depth that I think I'll be processing all the thoughts and facts all night.

Lol, what a joke you are. 🙂

43 minutes ago, Thomasso said:

You saying that I'm wrong is just your opinion though... Which you could be wrong at. Right?

And please, for the love of god. It's "you're" or "you are". "Your" refers to something that I own. And I'm not even a native English speaker. It isn't that hard, really...

Yes your right that it is just my opinion, we all have the right to think we are right in what we say, after all that's what forums are for.

Regarding using the correct grammar is not my main concern, It's a flight sim forum not an English lesson/exam, after working for 12 hours in a demanding job, where peoples live are at risk (including yours and everyone else's if you fly) if I miss material faults. I reserve the right to use small grammatical errors which are generally used in the local dialect of the English language where I live rather than try and use the Queens English, rather than someone use it to try and put someone, down. If you don't understand the intricacies of the English Language, it's best not to comment on it as it's a complex language with lots of regional dialects and accents. I assume your perfect and never make any little mistakes even in your mother tonque.

3 minutes ago, eaim said:

Yes your right that it is just my opinion, we all have the right to think we are right in what we say, after all that's what forums are for.

Regarding using the correct grammar is not my main concern, It's a flight sim forum not an English lesson/exam, after working for 12 hours in a demanding job, where peoples live are at risk (including yours and everyone else's if you fly) if I miss material faults. I reserve the right to use small grammatical errors which are generally used in the local dialect of the English language where I live rather than try and use the Queens English, rather than someone use it to try and put someone, down. If you don't understand the intricacies of the English Language, it's best not to comment on it as it's a complex language with lots of regional dialects and accents. I assume your perfect and never make any little mistakes even in your mother tonque.

Well, I disagree with you but I totally agree that this is a flight sim forum and it's not a place to have extensive debates about grammar 🙂 So let's leave it at that.

1 minute ago, Thomasso said:

Well, I disagree with you but I totally agree that this is a flight sim forum and it's not a place to have extensive debates about grammar 🙂 So let's leave it at that.

That's fine to disagree, it's healthy. 

I certainly don't want to get into some sort of argument. So I agree let's move on, there are more important things in life...... like are we going to get in the Tech Alpha tonight?😏

18 minutes ago, Thomasso said:

Whereas your comment has so much depth that I think I'll be processing all the thoughts and facts all night.

Lol, what a joke you are. 🙂

Nice comeback there. Saw the thread listed as hot and I got excited thinking something new happened. Turned out to just be you being stubborn over something we've dealt with already. No matter how well things were explained you just kept going but but but.

18 minutes ago, eaim said:

That's fine to disagree, it's healthy. 

I certainly don't want to get into some sort of argument. So I agree let's move on, there are more important things in life...... like are we going to get in the Tech Alpha tonight?😏

Glad we're adult about it 🙂 Actually the reason why I'm so active here is that I'm waiting for the update 🙂 Should come any minute now i hope. Have a nice evening in England.

10 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Nice comeback there. Saw the thread listed as hot and I got excited thinking something new happened. Turned out to just be you being stubborn over something we've dealt with already. No matter how well things were explained you just kept going but but but.

Who's "we"? I haven't dealt with it yet, obviously. I have been nothing but respectful in presenting my opinion and thoughts. Got some negative feedback, sure, that's what discussions are about. But you're the first who attacked me personally.

I have no idea what I'm talking about? Based on what? Some specific statement I posted that implies that I have no idea what I'm talking about? If you don't have any specifics, better stay quiet or you just look like a fool.

Forums are about discussing stuff you know? Not that you "explain things" and other people shut up.

3 hours ago, Thomasso said:

For me, study level means that the aircraft is "alive". That means all systems modeled and not just visually. It means that you press a button and everything happens the same way as if you pressed the button in the real aircraft under the same conditions. Fluids will flow, current will flow, aicraft will be affected properly.

🙂

You should not confuse and pretend a virtual matrix to equal real Life in all the existing attributes that apply out there.

Why not? Computational Power limits and mouse/joystick usability limits.

A virtual aircraft can be defined as "study level" but Is not "alive" It Is the Matrix of the simulator that needs to be "Active" and be able to read the aircraft attributes properly and make you fly or not.

In a simulator, You may hit a Bird with the windshield and nothing Will happen because It Is not interesting and recreating this consume computational Power.

So, expect realistic aircrafts in this game and a great Matrix. That's all.

Edited May 14, 20206 yr by mp15