Maybe this is a problem with icing in general? But I was flying at ~8k feet thru some light clouds and started to experience icing. Is that normal? Also is there anything in the aircraft to reduce ice on the windshields? What am I supposed to do in this situation. I mean, are we really supposed to completely avoid even light clouds at low levels like this, or is this a bug?

But the biggest problem was I started losing speed and alt, but I have the icing setting to visual only. I tried flipping on the prop deice switch, but it didn’t seem to help (I assume the icing was on the wing leading edges). I basically have no idea what happened. Any ideas here?

If your outside air temp is below freezing you should avoid flying into clouds.  The Bonanza does not have an airframe deicing capability.  Once the ice is there, you have to descend to above freezing air and pray!

1 hour ago, Gridley said:

If your outside air temp is below freezing you should avoid flying into clouds.  The Bonanza does not have an airframe deicing capability.  Once the ice is there, you have to descend to above freezing air and pray!

Ok, although I'm somewhat disappointed that even light clouds do that? So basically in that plane (and other GA?) I have to avoid all clouds? 

Also what about my having it set to "Visual Only"? Anyone have the same and experience the loss of speed/alt? I thought if I had it set the icing wouldn't effect the plane then.

Edited August 28, 20205 yr by bahnzo

Had this happened to me also , Was flying along on ap , heard the alarm going off stall , stall , looked out saw all the ice on the windows, not a place to me

Well I hope a RW pilot will comment, but yeah, if you don't have ice protection, you don't fly into known icing conditions.

RW pilot here.

Yes, even small cumulus clouds can generate a quick coating of ice if the temp is just right.  Popping in and out of them when they are small may put a small amount of ice on the airframe and windshield. The ice will (in real life) sublimate off the windshield after a few minutes in clear air or a decent to warmer air clears things up. If you are flying in a cloud long enough and you are icing up and losing performance in a non ice rated aircraft, you need to find the quickest and safest way out of the ice.

You can fly in a clouds without any problem. What you don't do is not to fly in known icing condition of your aircraft is not certified to do so.

Usually GA pilots look at temperature/wind aloft, airmet zulu, sigmet and other weather report to figure out freezing level and area of potential icing conditions. If aircraft is equipped with deicing equipment and certified to fly in known icing condition than flying through the icing is possible.In fact, Bonanza G36 is approved to fly in known icing condition an an amendment to STC. 

22 minutes ago, fmrCXflyer said:

RW pilot here.

Yes, even small cumulus clouds can generate a quick coating of ice if the temp is just right.  Popping in and out of them when they are small may put a small amount of ice on the airframe and windshield. The ice will (in real life) sublimate off the windshield after a few minutes in clear air or a decent to warmer air clears things up. If you are flying in a cloud long enough and you are icing up and losing performance in a non ice rated aircraft, you need to find the quickest and safest way out of the ice.

Thanks for the info! You say "if the temp is just right", is there any way to elaborate a bit on that?

Of course, not a RW pilot, but it seems the icing is overdone in the sim. As I mentioned, in my instance I wasn't really flying in heavy clouds (I was in and out of them all flight, and even when I was in them, I was still able to see the ground, etc. Visibility wasn't that reduced) but I still had issues. Also I think the setting is broken due to the icing causing me to lose altitude. 

2 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

You can fly in a clouds without any problem. What you don't do is not to fly in known icing condition of your aircraft is not certified to do so.

Usually GA pilots look at temperature/wind aloft, airmet zulu, sigmet and other weather report to figure out freezing level and area of potential icing conditions. If aircraft is equipped with deicing equipment and certified to fly in known icing condition than flying through the icing is possible.In fact, Bonanza G36 is approved to fly in known icing condition an an amendment to STC. 

Can you tell us how to identify those known conditions?

And you say the G36 is approved to fly in those conditions....all I noticed in the cockpit is a "Prop Deice" switch...is that all which is needed? Because I tried turning that on, and it had no effect. 

Just possible this is a bug?

2 minutes ago, bahnzo said:

Thanks for the info! You say "if the temp is just right", is there any way to elaborate a bit on that?

Of course, not a RW pilot, but it seems the icing is overdone in the sim. As I mentioned, in my instance I wasn't really flying in heavy clouds (I was in and out of them all flight, and even when I was in them, I was still able to see the ground, etc. Visibility wasn't that reduced) but I still had issues. Also I think the setting is broken due to the icing causing me to lose altitude. 

I suggest you do some research before drawing any assumptions on how you think things should be

 

2 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I suggest you do some research before drawing any assumptions on how you think things should be

 

And there's that rudeness I've come to expect from the Flight Sim communities. Thanks. 

4 minutes ago, bahnzo said:

And there's that rudeness I've come to expect from the Flight Sim communities. Thanks. 

There are several replies already by Flight Sim community. Now is your turn - google is within reach of your hands. 

2 hours ago, Gridley said:

If your outside air temp is below freezing you should avoid flying into clouds.  The Bonanza does not have an airframe deicing capability.  Once the ice is there, you have to descend to above freezing air and pray!

My real-world Bonanza (A36) has an anti-ice/de-ice system.

18 minutes ago, bahnzo said:

Thanks for the info! You say "if the temp is just right", is there any way to elaborate a bit on that?

Of course, not a RW pilot, but it seems the icing is overdone in the sim. As I mentioned, in my instance I wasn't really flying in heavy clouds (I was in and out of them all flight, and even when I was in them, I was still able to see the ground, etc. Visibility wasn't that reduced) but I still had issues. Also I think the setting is broken due to the icing causing me to lose altitude. 

Its hard to say whats optimal. Above around 34deg F is too warm obviously and an extremely cold cloud probably wont give too much icing but its a hit and miss kinda thing. Assume 0-2deg C and below in the clouds or visible moisture, icing is possible. 

Its hard to say if its overdone or not since I dont know if they model the icing due to conditions or its just a static "if its below this temp and above this temp in a cloud, you get ice".

If you hit the right conditions in real life, it can put a good 1/4" to 1/2" of mixed ice on in a very short amount of time. Those conditions are extremely dangerous even for aircraft approved for flight into known icing.

6 minutes ago, busdriver said:

My real-world Bonanza (A36) has an anti-ice/de-ice system.

I'm assuming this is more than just the "prop deice" we have a switch for? Or am I not seeing it somewhere in the cockpit?