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Bing Maps and FS2020 not matching

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12 minutes ago, RustyFlyer said:

Totally agree. In both Bing imagery & Google imagery, it is not uncommon to see one set of visual characteristics at a certain altitude/eye level, and to see a completely different set and image, including content even, at a lower, more zoomed-in altitude/eye level.

This made me really wonder how they were going to manage to produce scenery that didn't look like it'd been glued together. Some of those divisions are pretty extreme, even at the same zoom level. Take a look at this one with 4 distinct regions taken at different times of the year:

https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=d4db971c-128a-4d83-90ce-d30907888af7&cp=62.4291~-114.628731&lvl=13&style=h&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027

From a visual standpoint, I'm quite impressed that the sim has managed to make the world look cohesive considering what it was working with as source imagery.

 

 

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Interesting. To me it looks like two different aerial images. There are other details as well that seem to be different, e.g. the baked-in cars.

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The only time I noticed such a difference was a few months ago in one of the official Alpha screenshots (Leeds). Some fields were yellow in the sim but green in Bing Maps. Also the baked-in cars didn't match. Might have something to do with Bing updates, i.e. new imagery.

Edited by Shack95

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If anyone wants to really know / learn what is really going on please take 5 min and watch this from the people at Bing Maps. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjMKLGe1dd8

 

wish I could make a redirect for any and all omg bing map post 😛

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1 minute ago, SirDan said:

If anyone wants to really know / learn what is really going on please take 5 min and watch this from the people at Bing Maps. 

What do you mean exactly? 

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Just now, Shack95 said:

What do you mean exactly? 

I mean If anyone wants to really know / learn what is really going on please take 5 min and watch this from the people at Bing Maps. 

 

ofc if you know what is going on with Bing maps then this was not directed at you. A lot of people lurk , come to these forums not to squabble but to read / learn 🙂

it was just a link for information only 

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11 minutes ago, SirDan said:

it was just a link for information only 

Ah ok. I thought you were referring to a specific piece of information. I‘m not entirely sure but if I had to make a guess, I’d say that the imagery for that location was updated in Bing Maps but not in the sim yet.

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1 hour ago, DPSimulation said:

To be clear, Loch Fitty is in Scotland not North England. You could cause an international incident here!  😁

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Check out the Wallace Monument near Sterling it`s a tower block ???, try flying under the forth bridge.

 

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I found something similar. Sometimes there are buildings present in the sim, which are not there on BING satellite image - but on the map (and IRL). Would be interesting how that whole scenery setup technically works in detail.

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8 hours ago, tweekz said:

Sometimes there are buildings present in the sim, which are not there on BING satellite image - but on the map (and IRL). Would be interesting how that whole scenery setup technically works in detail.

Yes, that‘d be interesting to know. It could be that they use OSM or something similar where good data is available or that blackshark.ai used more up-to-date imagery for their scan. Just speculating.

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10 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

Yes, that‘d be interesting to know. It could be that they use OSM or something similar where good data is available or that blackshark.ai used more up-to-date imagery for their scan. Just speculating.

BING also has a lot of the info of OSM. That's why I don't understand they didn't used it to create specific building types. If you go to BING maps, zoom to a local area and enter "church" it will list you most of the churches in that area - getting a church symbol at each, indicating a special category (it doesn't just search for the name). So that data must be available.

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Happy with MSFS 🙂
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1 hour ago, tweekz said:

BING also has a lot of the info of OSM.

Yes, as far as I know they have a partnership with OSM, at least they provided some footprint data. Bing have a lot of data at their disposal and I‘m sure the sim will make more use of the them in the future (eg churches). It’d be really interesting to know how (if) and where OSM data are involved. This might allow us to help make the autogen more accurate.

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12 hours ago, M-Air Bush Deliveries Ltd said:

Well, that does not help me with my flying style. 🙂

I had to touch down two times now in the middle of nowhere because I was lost and had to study the map for longer (I do not pause the game when looking for landmark features on Bing mps) 🙂

i use plan g, in the background, as an online paper map. never got lost sofar, all the roads are there.

plan g has a fantastic topographic map overlay too.

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