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Seems like it would be fun to note the improvements in fsx. Some are readily apparent and some are very subtle and only come with time.The big ones for me-pitch stability/trim in the Baron (finally), more realistic landing handling (both xwinds, and ground effect),smoother reacting gauges, ability to have no blurries in the scenery, missions (can't wait till people start uploading real world scenerios), shared cockpits, tower in multiplayer, much higher resolution mesh, and near photo quality ground textures. Airports much more detailed and accurate-even my class D airport has my hangar depicted, and an alive world below with cars, boats on lakes-which will doubtless be expanded (already downloaded the migrating whales off of Nova Scotia-pretty cool).Have you noticed that the car traffic on the roads changes depending on the time of day (rush hour more congested).That not only can you take a picture with the "v" key-that when you save a flight-if you took a picture-a nice shot will come up when you click load your saved flight?That the runways covered with snow actually get slippery!That in the opening screen-if you don't click to load-it loads in the background.That icing is modelled better?The vc's not only are smoother, but look better-and this with the combination of snap views has finally made me a 3d convert (I personally love the glass reflections -now we need virtual bugs on the windshield like real life).Anyway-feel free to add to some of the improvements-there are lots. It is the improvements that keep me glued to this sim.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

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I know I havent been the biggest cheerleader for this sim but I do like the new 2D cockpits as well, they are far better than the default aircraft of before. I am especially liking the 737 pit and VC. Very nice work. Also the Extra cocpkpit is really nice. Superb artwork. I also like the head movement. Although a little overdone, it's a nice improvement in realism for me.There.....phew..that wasnt too hard to do! :)Hornit

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I'm with you on the VC the look great on the Heavies. I like the new UL also the way the wind can toss it around. Of couse when the Photoreal scenery is clicking its amazing. The new coptors are great to I can actual fly this one.:-) Just to much good stuff for me to go back to FS9 full time. I still have it on my hard drive so I can take a quick spin if I want with its fast load time but its more and more FSX 4 me.

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Hi GeofaThis is a good thread. Because, if I am to update my machine at some considerable expense, I would like to know just what the new Sim will do for me that I am not currently getting. I like the idea of the missions as I have always thought that the adventures in past versions were under utilised. Better scenery is always good - I don't really need better default a/c because I can get those from 3rd party addons - but they are still OK to have. I would like better looking coastlines - any comments about these. Also better looking rivers - where the rivers don't go uphill(they do in FS2004 with addon mesh) Thanks Barry

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I primarily fly in the US-from what I have seen you may get uneven results depending where you fly in the world. I like the rivers (now multi colored-green/blue/transition areas) . Landclass needs lots of work but the add ons will come for that.A few others improvements -the world is now round, stars look incredible, more smoke coming from default factories, more lighting effects(I like the clouds reflecting in the water), aircraft outside views much more detailed down to the rivets (love the chromed spinner on the Baron)...http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

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Overall the terrain, and coastlines are much improved most places. There are a few areas without as much new data but overall its a big jump in detail here. There is a vast improvement in the rivers and terrain. I dont think you see rivers or streams going up and down hillsides now at all.Hornit

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excellen thread. Yes to the above however I also really enjoy the:- head movement. its subtle but adds a diff perspective.- helicopter flight cfg - I can actually land the chopper now! (got the 'land on the yacht' mission first time). Absolutely LOVE the Jetranger.- inbuilt contrails and how they've redone the jet trails at altitude (ie. no more white line with smoke around it!)- new flight config files. It really feels like you're 'floating' sometimes ie. little bumps, etc.- redesigned taxi ways and a/c aprons. (btw, does anyone know how to activate the jetways?)Thats it for the time being.

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How about the fact that, for the first time ever...The SDK was released at the same time as the Sim!!Yeah, I love the road traffic that Geof mentioned. :)And how about the dynamic airport vehicles, cool! If you can afford to have them enabled anyway. After installing MyTraffic X I disabled them. Prior to that I could only afford to have them set on low.Hornit,Sorry, but I have to disagree about an improvement with 2D Cockpits, at least as far as the cold shoulder that 2D Cockpit developers have been given. See my sig. And as edetroit had in his sig for a little bit not long ago, 2D Cockpit developers are gonna love FSX... NOT!Cheers guys,Jim

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and how about......the oil patches on the apron! wooo-hooo! :-lol...you can finally squat...12 fps are milky smooth...the A key in VC (no need to barrel-roll to flip light switches)...tires get wet (or am i dreaming?)...windswept dust/snow wake (anyone seen wingtip vortices yet?)...radio frequencies have effect on comms in multiplayer...the water! people, the WATER!...gliders (sorry, i'm addicted now)...haven't found that baby elephant yet! :-(

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I still can't get enough of the water and the dense autogen, can't wait till I can max it out.I also like the new head movement, especially neat when in a warbird, it gives a great sense of power. Plus the zoom is more reailistc and not as fisheyed like in FS9As Jim pointed out, the SDKs up front are great as well.Seeing ground vehicles moving around the airports is a big plus also.Regards, MichaelKDFW

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>...haven't found that baby elephant yet! :-(Dude, I've found him 5 times already, LOL That is a neat mission.Regards, MichaelKDFW

Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe nForce4 SLI-x16 / AMD

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I agree to all this!Fs9 is now heading to my back up drive.Elephant is fun!Imagine having 'fun'!!

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Anyone on here that's able to check 'Advanced Animations' notice something that may not be totally new, but I think it's so improved that it might as well be called new...Wing Flex! Check out the wing flex, on the glider especially. Woohoo!The dynamics of it have to be seen in-sim to be appreciated of course ;), but here's a little pic during a takeoff rollout.Cheers,Jimhttp://home.comcast.net/~linuxrh/2006-10-28_10-20-45-140.jpg

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- popupwindows (radiostack, lights, levers, etc) SNAP to the side of the screen (it's such a SMALL thing but I really love that!)- new ATC window (with history)- Ultralight- G1000- G1000- G1000(Yes, I really like the G1000!!!)And of course all the things that are already mentioned. :)

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Most of the above and:- ability to have multiple control .xml files for yokes, joysticks and asssorted hardware. Finally! - weather is beautiful, somehow lighting and sky color make it much more real. - Turbulence! Thermals! And yes, I've seen wingtip vortices :)And birds in Seattle docksRegards,Jure

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Not sure if this was done in FS9, but I never saw it.External graphical representation of engine fires when a failure is set - looks very good and very scary - but must say those engines are built to last - 30 mins on fire - and no fire spread and wings still attached - if only that was true for real world.Is that Cessna pilot blinking at me or do I need more sleep.This sim may be tough on Hardware, but boy does it have a future in my opinion.Cheers Roger - EGPF

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Sorry too much - are you referring to mythical hypothetical Improvements OR continued Nobbling to achieve anything

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18 replies before the first troll popped in for a negative comment, thats gotta be a record lol...:-)

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The biggest single gain from the `tweaking` perspective is the ability to save and call up different configs for different styles and types of flying. Lawd knose how much time would have been wasted if you had to reboot the sim to see the changes like before. The Missions concept opens a whole new chapter in addons and the potential for future growth. Conditional animations are a major step forward - its not that the wings flex, it's that they flex the way they are supposed to, when airflow, g-force and environment impact upon them. The improvements in the FDE are no hypothetical improvement - try gliding in any previous version of the franchise. Or landing a helicopter. I also like the way the 3d cockpits have been integrated, and the way the instruments retain their clarity even when zoomed in.And the higher resolution textures have opened a new door in simming, one which will be exploited by the aftermarket with amazing results, I am sure.In time, and with patching, I am sure that FSX will evolve into the de facto standard of sims, but there is currently a shortfall in the hardware to run it, and the sim shows signs of having been rushed to market at several points. But even if the improvements above were the only ones, they could NOT be applied retrospectively to FS9, so in plain and simple terms FSX is an advance on anything that went before. So yes, there are many positives. Allcott

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Not sure if it was mentioned but being able to lock on a view via a menu is a nice touch.Ground handling is much better.Wet runways.Overall atmosphere seems improved.Everything listed in previous posts.Loads the starting screen into a window, helpful if running other apps.Turbulence is much better.Defualt mesh is much better. Taking a flight from my closest airport 40N to KRDG is much more realistic. FS9 was good, FSX is better.When you see all the listed improvements and changes it certainly makes you think how much of an improvement it really is.Performance is an issue on my low end machine but I'm having fun and that's all that matters to me. FS9 was great for 3 years, I'm hoping FSX will be better for the next three. So far so good.Good to see a nice thread for once.Ian.

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I can fly all default aircraft, Milton Shupe's Beech 18, all of the Real Air aircraft from the VC at a steady 18fps(rural areas). Very smooth. The gauge update rate is excellent. In comparison to FS9, there were very few aircraft I cared to fly from the VC. Either the frame rate was very low or the gauges step changed. A wonderful improvement.Bob...

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I like all that you guys have posted here LOL. night flying...love it in FSX...the stars, the moon, the water reflections....The curvature of Earth, looks awesome!...You know, i think ACES has achieved an incredible sense of flying out of a PC-based simulator, thats quite an achievement! love FSX, great thread :-) Best Regards

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1:1m+ textures2:The new 5.1 sound system.3:The liquid smooth feeling of flight, and If you enable winds aloft with RW you have to provide control inputs to keep the aicraft doing what you want it do.4:Although the default aircraft still seem to be as pitch sensitive as fs9, you can now trim them for stable pitch and attitude control, especially in the descent phase of the flight.5:I'm still using the demo:)John

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