October 19, 20205 yr Well at those prices that’s me priced out or atleast a hell of a Christmas sale from them!
October 19, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, Carts85 said: Well at those prices that’s me priced out or atleast a hell of a Christmas sale from them! You could start building your own real size cockpit ... ✈️ 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 19, 20205 yr 22 minutes ago, GSalden said: Prosim is a cockpit suite for the 737-800, A 320 and 737 Max... My point was to show that Prosim has the intention to release their products for MSFS. So this is only an external visual model? If so no thanks. I've been done with that since FS2k2. If it's not study level in a sim like this I'll pass... FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
October 19, 20205 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Dillon said: So this is only an external visual model? If so no thanks. I've been done with that since FS2k2. If it's not study level in a sim like this I'll pass... I guess that you don’t know what Prosim is ... https://prosim-ar.com/airline-ato/ 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 19, 20205 yr 55 minutes ago, Dillon said: So this is only an external visual model? If so no thanks. I've been done with that since FS2k2. If it's not study level in a sim like this I'll pass... Prosim737 is a what FAA calls a cockpit procedural trainer, but w/o high fidelity aerodynamic modelling. Basically the systems are there, but authentic behaviour in the "air" is obviously not something FAA can approve since it is running on a desktop sim and not a Level-D 6 axis multi million facility. EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress MSFS24 | X-Plane 12
October 19, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, SAS443 said: Prosim737 is a what FAA calls a cockpit procedural trainer, but w/o high fidelity aerodynamic modelling. Basically the systems are there, but authentic behaviour in the "air" is obviously not something FAA can approve since it is running on a desktop sim and not a Level-D 6 axis multi million facility. Thanks. FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
October 19, 20205 yr Still not clear whether the FS2020 will include a Virtual Cockpit or will be the same as their P3D offering (from what I understand this software needs hardware to plug the software to, is that correct?) John.
October 19, 20205 yr Author 23 minutes ago, SAS443 said: Prosim737 is a what FAA calls a cockpit procedural trainer, but w/o high fidelity aerodynamic modelling. Basically the systems are there, but authentic behaviour in the "air" is obviously not something FAA can approve since it is running on a desktop sim and not a Level-D 6 axis multi million facility. That is what I thought too, but then I saw this : https://prosim-ar.com/type-specific/ EASA FTD 1 & FNPT II / FAA Level 4 & 5 Edited October 19, 20205 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 19, 20205 yr 37 minutes ago, GSalden said: That is what I thought too, but then I saw this : https://prosim-ar.com/type-specific/ EASA FTD 1 & FNPT II / FAA Level 4 & 5 FAA level 6 is where type specific aerodynamics comes into play. Level 4 is a basic procedural trainer (can be without hardware, touchscreens will suffice) and level 5 is system simulation accompagnied with authentic hardware. EASA FTD 1 is identical to FAA level 4-5, while FNPT is a navigational trainer and not as complex as FTD. FTD 2 is ideal for training prior to entering full flight simulator (FFS) installation. What your Prosim is lacking for FAA level 6 is something like: - Accurate aerodynamic flight and ground model based on Airbus/ Boeing data -Level D fidelity control loading on all flight controls. Hope this helped. EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress MSFS24 | X-Plane 12
October 20, 20205 yr Author 7 hours ago, SAS443 said: FAA level 6 is where type specific aerodynamics comes into play. Level 4 is a basic procedural trainer (can be without hardware, touchscreens will suffice) and level 5 is system simulation accompagnied with authentic hardware. EASA FTD 1 is identical to FAA level 4-5, while FNPT is a navigational trainer and not as complex as FTD. FTD 2 is ideal for training prior to entering full flight simulator (FFS) installation. What your Prosim is lacking for FAA level 6 is something like: - Accurate aerodynamic flight and ground model based on Airbus/ Boeing data -Level D fidelity control loading on all flight controls. Hope this helped. Thanks for explaining 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 20, 20205 yr Maybe they will do a 'lite' version! 😁 Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
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