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How to Center Rudder & Aileron Trim Settings

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So I was messing around in the TBM today and realized that the rudder trim indicator presented on the MFD doesn't seem to be functional.

There doesn't seem to be any command in the control menu for centering your rudder trim (nor aileron trim).

Any idea of how I can check all my trim settings on the fly and reset as needed?...Perhaps there's a way of doing this in the developer menu somehow?

I'd like to be able to perfectly zero out all my trim settings within a plane after a flight, before I continue to take off again.

Edited by hangar

Center Aileron/Rudder Num 5. I'm guessing that's the Numpad 5.

Hope this helps.

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*EDIT - actually that doesn't work, apparently the one you mentioned only causes the physical aileron or rudder airfoil to center itself but is not linked in any way to the trim tabs, which don't seem to have a centering command in the sim 🤬

At least in real life you can get out of the aircraft and physically check the tabs, but the only way to get them dead center in game is to restart the flight from the main menu again.

I wonder if FSUIPC has a remedy for this?

Edited by hangar

 

7 hours ago, hangar said:

*EDIT - actually that doesn't work, apparently the one you mentioned only causes the physical aileron or rudder airfoil to center itself but is not linked in any way to the trim tabs, which don't seem to have a centering command in the sim 🤬

At least in real life you can get out of the aircraft and physically check the tabs, but the only way to get them dead center in game is to restart the flight from the main menu again.

I wonder if FSUIPC has a remedy for this?

I may not understand what you say but what I see in the Spit' and I also checked that in the TBM is that the 'reset rudder trim' command centers the tab and not the whole rudder foil. I programmed a button on my throttle and it works OK.

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3 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

the 'reset rudder trim' command centers the tab

If that's what the actual command is called then THAT's exactly what i was looking for, thank you!

I did command searches for 'rudder trim' and 'trim' and 'center trim' and 'center'...but never thought of using the word 'reset'....geez...I even googled how to center rudder trim without good results.

Thanks again...will look for this command when I get back into the sim later.

What about resetting Elevator trim though? I can see no way of doing that with a simple button press. It may not be a real world option but I think it ought to be in the sim. A search in the control settings reveals nothing as far as I can see.

I've had flight where I couldn't get the nose to lift when attempting to take off, only to discover that the trim was pushing the nose down into the tarmac, obviously having saved the settings from a previous flight.

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Edited by trainnut

We really need trim controls now.

EG. The new Arrow from JustFlight has a definite need for rudder trim...as old single props do ...

Ergo, we need a centring button too.

3 minutes ago, Gabe777 said:

We really need trim controls now.

EG. The new Arrow from JustFlight has a definite need for rudder trim...as old single props do ...

Ergo, we need a centring button too.

Not all the aircraft have rudder trim.

And if you take the time to read this thread, you will see that MFS has a command to center the rudder trim hen it exists.

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14 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

What about resetting Elevator trim though?

I can't find any command for resetting Elevator trim either, one might think that a command for that should be obvious in a flight simulator, but apparently not.

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1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

Not all the aircraft have rudder trim.

And if you take the time to read this thread, you will see that MFS has a command to center the rudder trim hen it exists.

Why thank you my good man. 👍

1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

Not all the aircraft have rudder trim.

And if you take the time to read this thread, you will see that MFS has a command to center the rudder trim hen it exists.

 

It matters not one jot if aircraft in the RW have trim tabs. We are playing a game.

All fightsims have allowed for pseudo ( that means NOT really real ! ) trims...all 3 !

.....This is because not everyone has rudder pedals.

Now, you have a good, or rather "Superior," day Sir ! 👍👍👍

Edited by Gabe777

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It's difficult to understand why, in 2021, a flight simulator application which utilizes trim tabs does not give the user any way to zero out both aileron & elevator trims. It's a bit baffling to me as I think this shows a disconnect between the developers, who had to put all the forethought into the design & structure of the sim in it's very early stages, and the end users who would fly it.

Even Xplane's flight sim (a tiny organization as compared to the MS/Asobo partnership) includes a simple command for zeroing out each type of trim tab. They also offer a developer's type data window which can display a digital readout of all positional info for every axis, airfoil and trim tab...so this way even if you don't have the zero command bound you can still center trims manually by calling up the little "data out" screen and watching it go to zero as you manually take out the trim. Ingenious? Not really...it just shows that the software designer (an experienced real life pilot) understood what would be needed and made plans to implement it from day 1 (it's been in there for decades, it's not a new feature added on later).

 

 

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