Hello. I've always was flying without Rudder Pedals, but today decided to buy some. I serached many variants, but stopped at Logitech G Flight Rudder Pedals. Anyone here using this pedals for sim? If so, tell me please, how good it is?

1 hour ago, Druce said:

Hello. I've always was flying without Rudder Pedals, but today decided to buy some. I serached many variants, but stopped at Logitech G Flight Rudder Pedals. Anyone here using this pedals for sim? If so, tell me please, how good it is?

Not good...they're among, if not the worst mass-produced options on the market.

Those are the old Saitek Pro Pedals, rebranded after Logitech bought out Saitek.  They're cheap plastic construction, and have iffy USB electronics and horrible cheap potentiometers that quickly wear out and which cannot be replaced when they do.

They're marginally usable if you fly airliners and all you need is toe brakes and rudder pedals for taxi, takeoff, and landing.  If you fly stick-n-rudder, though, you really want something more durable and with better electronics.

I've been using CH Prop Pedals for the past eleven years. They are not expensive and are solidly built in my opinion. 🤠

57 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Not good...they're among, if not the worst mass-produced options on the market.

Those are the old Saitek Pro Pedals, rebranded after Logitech bought out Saitek.  They're cheap plastic construction, and have iffy USB electronics and horrible cheap potentiometers that quickly wear out and which cannot be replaced when they do.

They're marginally usable if you fly airliners and all you need is toe brakes and rudder pedals for taxi, takeoff, and landing.  If you fly stick-n-rudder, though, you really want something more durable and with better electronics.

Tbh, yeah, the only thing I fly airliners. taxing with joystick not good. I have Extreme 3D Pro by the way. About 7 years, still working good

1 hour ago, w6kd said:

Not good...they're among, if not the worst mass-produced options on the market.

Those are the old Saitek Pro Pedals, rebranded after Logitech bought out Saitek.  They're cheap plastic construction, and have iffy USB electronics and horrible cheap potentiometers that quickly wear out and which cannot be replaced when they do.

They're marginally usable if you fly airliners and all you need is toe brakes and rudder pedals for taxi, takeoff, and landing.  If you fly stick-n-rudder, though, you really want something more durable and with better electronics.

Disagree.  I have been using the prior Saitek Pro Cessna Pedals for 11 years now and for the price point they have been flawless.  The current Logitech pedals look like a close match.  I am not pulling out a weight scale to weigh them but the pedals I am using are in absolutely no way cheap plastic.  The only USB issue I have experienced is instead a Windows issue where in Control Panel, Device Manager, Human Interface Devices I needed to locate the pedals as a USB device and unselect allow Windows to use power saving for the device.  Only had to do that once.  Prior to these pedals I used both Thrustmaster and CH pedals.

My Excel logbook shows I have used them for over 1,700 flight hours and they are nowhere near wearing out.  Not even close.
 

Edited June 21, 20214 yr by fppilot

My defining experience with the Saitek pedals was helping a friend with his...they routinely lost their calibration in Windows, and only 14 months after he bought them, several of the pots began to suffer from fairly severe spiking and noise.  They were a fitting companion for his Saitek yoke and throttles, which were even worse.  There is plenty of other commentary about them to be found online with a little green-belt level Google-Fu.

If you want a recommendation, the MFG Crosswind pedals are far superior...hall sensors vs cheap pots, all-metal construction.  Yup, more expensive (but still in the consumer range), but quality always is.

I would too recommend the MFG Crosswind pedals. They are more expensive than the Saitek/Logitech pedals, but they will last a long time.

55 minutes ago, w6kd said:

If you want a recommendation, the MFG Crosswind pedals are far superior...hall sensors vs cheap pots, all-metal construction.  Yup, more expensive (but still in the consumer range), but quality always is.

I do not take any issue with that.  The Crosswind 3's are a very fine product.  What I do take issue with is seeing such a harsh commentary on what otherwise is and has been another viable product, and I have seen very few reports of such issues.  And the Hall sensor issue has long since been a topic of volatile discussions here.  It is way more of an issue to some than to others....

PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensors
 

Edited June 21, 20214 yr by fppilot

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

I do not take any issue with that.  The Crosswind 3's are a very fine product.  What I do take issue with is seeing such a harsh commentary on what otherwise is and has been another viable product, and I have seen very few reports of such issues.  And the Hall sensor issue has long since been a topic of volatile discussions here.  It is way more of an issue to some than to others....

Sorry, but I call it the way I see it.  My comments aren't any harsher than necessary to describe how spectacularly awful the experiences with those Saitek controllers were.  You have had a positive experience with the pedals, and I don't dispute that.  What I saw myself was quite the opposite.  Those reading this can take both of those datapoints into consideration along with the other information they can gather and reach their own conclusions before making a buying decision.

I don't remember any "volatile" discussions about HE sensors here...perhaps you can point me to some? 

I retrofitted my 2002-vintage PFC gear with HE sensors 9 years ago and haven't had to touch them since.  I've also got three Thrustmaster T-16000M sticks, a Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog and a HOTAS Cougar (also retrofitted with CNC gimbals and HE sensors), a second set of retrofitted PFC Cirrus Jet rudder pedals and two sets of Flight Deck Solutions rudder pedals.  Haven't had to mess with a single HE transducer on any of 'em...they've never gotten noisy, never spiked--they're all as electrically quiet and accurate as the day they went into service.  Not at all the same experience I've had with numerous previous controllers of various types that used pots, including the original PFC pots that I replaced 2-3 times before doing the HE mods.

 

9 minutes ago, w6kd said:

I don't remember any "volatile" discussions about HE sensors here...perhaps you can point me to some? 

Look up RP's posts after Honeycomb provided the final pre-production specs for their Alpha yoke.  Just one example.  Opps.  Just one that was ongoing....  It comes up in a number of yoke and rudder discussions.  Many if not most of us got the point long ago.  And continue to survive quite nicely without Hall sensors.

Edited June 21, 20214 yr by fppilot

"RP"??

1 minute ago, w6kd said:

"RP"??

Yes.  Perhaps look up Honeycomb Yoke and Hall sensors always will fail

Still not seeing it.

2 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Still not seeing it.

Its not a four-leaf clover.  LOL!

 

I had 2 of them one used in school and one at home, the older one have a broken a toe brake spring hook after like 7~8 years (And when I'm in school, so only use for few month every year)...

Now I'm using Thrustmaster TFPR, which is even more cheap one compare to Saitek one...The main issue is the friction on axis is soooo strong and nonuniform, I can't even get a smooth push side to side, I tried tons of lubricant but no help.

As I have very limited legroom and I also need to switch pedal set between car and plane, I didn't have much other choice then...