Hmm thought I was using Flybywire A320 - just did latest update to it - noticed hey wheres the EFB want to try out that new throttle calibration tool - oh well not there Ill take a flight anyway

Takes forever to get to fly button 😞 KMIA to KMCO IFR within MSFS flight plan creation tool - works great

ATC was perfect - impressive - perfect landing and flight - said to myself boy the Flybywire is pretty dang good

Moral of the story I was in fact flying default A320 and didnt realize it until I ended flight and checked the hanger and it wasnt the Flybywire - so not sure why the negative reviews on this stock aircraft - worked well for me 

Hey Rich! Are you sure you didn't launch P3D unintentionally and fly the FSLabs instead?
😄
 

One thing I noticed with the default A320 is that on approach as you descend, you can set the selected speed to say, 145 knots, and the default A320 will gradually slow down to 145 knots, without the need of any speed brakes.

For the FBW A320, when you are on approach and descending, even if you set the selected speed to 145 knots, you often have to use speed brakes.  People in the FBW Discord chat says this is more realistic of how the A320 flies in real life (I am not a real life pilot in the first place, and I have no experience with the A320 in real life).

In other words, with the default A320, if you set a slower selected speed, you can typically get there without the use of speed brakes, even when you're descending.  With the FBW A320, you often cannot get to a slower selected speed on descent, without the use of speed brakes.

If the FBW Discord chat is right about how the real life A320 is supposed to perform, this makes the default A320 a little unrealistic in how it flies.  If you need to use speed brakes in the real life A320 on descent after you set a selected speed, I would prefer the FBW A320 since it's more realistic.

46 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Hey Rich! Are you sure you didn't launch P3D unintentionally and fly the FSLabs instead?
😄
 

Good one Dave 🙂 hope your well Buddy

 

23 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

One thing I noticed with the default A320 is that on approach as you descend, you can set the selected speed to say, 145 knots, and the default A320 will

Interesting observation - I used flaps and I like to be at 138 knots at touch down makes for a bit smoother landing imo - AP was working well GS etc. would have landed itself right down the center but at 50 ft I disengaged the AP - speed brakes were armed - flaps worked to slow it down

That said what you have stated is correct, I was just surprised how well it worked - I also tried the travel to feature in toolbar - went to descend phase to see if it would blow up it did a little bit speed wise but managed to get it under control pretty quick then finished landing

Oh quick question never saw this before - I noticed only one engine cowl opened up when reversers was used - have to look into that

Thanks Guys 

8 minutes ago, Richard Sennett said:

Interesting observation - I used flaps and I like to be at 138 knots at touch down makes for a bit smoother landing imo - AP was working well GS etc. would have landed itself right down the center but at 50 ft I disengaged the AP - speed brakes were armed - flaps worked to slow it down

That said what you have stated is correct, I was just surprised how well it worked - I also tried the travel to feature in toolbar - went to descend phase to see if it would blow up it did a little bit speed wise but managed to get it under control pretty quick then finished landing

Maybe one of the real life A320 pilots here in AVSIM can let us know how unrealistic/realistic it is for the default A320 to get to a slower selected speed on descent without using speed brakes.

As a passenger on many airlines, in almost all airlines I have flow in, speed brakes are often used at a certain point during the descent/approach phase when I look out the window if I am next to the wing.

The fact that I can set a selected speed on the default A320, and never have to use speed brakes in any phase of my descent, seems a little unrealistic to me.  But maybe a real life A320 pilot here in AVSIM can give us a more definitive answer.

I love the FBW A32NX. I use the development version (was using the experimental version). But I must be doing something wrong because I very very rarely use speed brakes during descent. I'm pretty much allowing the AP to do its thing. I am following the ATC's descent altitude instructions (occasionally ignoring them when it just looks wrong). After descending past FL110 and slowing to 250 knots, I switch to selected speed to keep it at 250 past the DECEL waypoint (I think it is too soon to slow to 200). When I'm about 15 nm from the runway, I switch back to managed speed and when below 230 or so drop the gear, that helps it get to 200 a bit quicker. Once lined up on the ILS and approaching the GS, I start adding flaps until I'm at touchdown speed either just as I'm capturing the GS or slightly after that. Love using the CAT3 Dual autoland.

I do use Simbrief to set up the flight plan and use the built in facilities in the MCDU to import it, then add my interpretation of departure and arrival courses on the FPLN page. Only after everything is set up in the MCDU do I then request clearance.

Did I mention I'm NOT a real world pilot? 😉

I'm not interested in doing everything exactly like a real world pilot would. Yet, I thoroughly enjoy myself.

...jim

 

6 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

For the FBW A320, when you are on approach and descending, even if you set the selected speed to 145 knots, you often have to use speed brakes.  People in the FBW Discord chat says this is more realistic of how the A320 flies in real life

To clarify, you don't need use speedbrakes to decelerate to Vapp speed in a 'normal approach' ( Decelerated or early stabilized technique ) in a real A320's family member.

9 hours ago, Richard Sennett said:

Hmm thought I was using Flybywire A320 - just did latest update to it - noticed hey wheres the EFB want to try out that new throttle calibration tool - oh well not there Ill take a flight anyway

Takes forever to get to fly button 😞 KMIA to KMCO IFR within MSFS flight plan creation tool - works great

ATC was perfect - impressive - perfect landing and flight - said to myself boy the Flybywire is pretty dang good

Moral of the story I was in fact flying default A320 and didnt realize it until I ended flight and checked the hanger and it wasnt the Flybywire - so not sure why the negative reviews on this stock aircraft - worked well for me 

Happens also to me, strange thing, because you're a lot younger 😆