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Washout : to tweak a non-HDR monitor and Nvidia 1080 setup

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Not "the" but "a" temporary solution to alleviate the overbrightness.

The SU5 overexposure has generated a cascade of threads where people bring a myriad of solutions often focused on HDR. I thought it might be useful to have a thread focused on old non-HDR capable monitors like mine (a 2013 Dell) and Nvidia cards (mine is a 1080 vanilla).

For those having a Nvidia but are unfamiliar with the accompanying software which is often rather stupidly IMO discarded as bloatware, Nvidia GE Experience has filters that you can activate game by game with a brightness/contrast parameters panel Exposure, Contrast, Highlights (ie bright tones), Shadows (ie dark tones) , Gamma. 

If you do it, choose a weather with a strong light and big clouds.

One drawback : the launching images when the game is loaded are degraded but you can get some good results in game.

Edited by Dominique_K

Dominique

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Can those settings be activated with a keybind , so that we just activate them once ingame?

 

 

Iñigo Bildarratz

Good post and fully agree with you.  I've found success with the following filters in this order:

  1. Sharpen
  2. Brightness / Contrast
  3. Color

 

 

"That's what" - She

Just now, Aristoteles said:

Can those settings be activated with a keybind , so that we just activate them once ingame?

Once you set them they should always be activated.  

"That's what" - She

6 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Not "the" but "a" temporary solution to alleviate the overbrightness.

The SU5 overexposure has generated a cascade of threads where people bring a myriad of solutions often focused on HDR. I thought it might be useful to have a thread focused on old non-HDR capable monitors like mine (a 2013 Dell) and Nvidia cards (mine is a 1080 vanilla).

For those having a Nvidia bur are unfamiliar with the accompanying software which is often rather stupidly IMO discarded as bloatware, Nvidida GE Experience has filters that you can activate game by game with a brightness/contrast panel parameters Exposure, Contrast, Highlights (ie bright tones), Shadows (ie dark tones) , Gamma. 

If you do it, choose a weather with a strong light and big clouds.

One drawback : the launching images when the game is loaded are degraded but you can get some good results in game.

Hi,

How did you do it?

Thanks in advance!

 

 

15 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

Good post and fully agree with you.  I've found success with the following filters in this order:

  1. Sharpen
  2. Brightness / Contrast
  3. Color

 

 

Also, be sure to set these values correctly:

Nvidia-settings.jpg

 

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25 minutes ago, John Fields said:

Hi,

How did you do it?

Thanks in advance!

 

You need to download GE Experience if not already done. Then you activate a working overlay with ALT A, select games filters then the brightness and contrast panel. Come back if you have problem.

Dominique

Simming since 1981 -  [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam

 

12 minutes ago, Stealthystevie said:

Also, be sure to set these values correctly:

Nvidia-settings.jpg

 

Thanks for that.  For some strange reason mine had reverted to 8 bit, maybe after the last driver update.  My 1080Ti only goes up to 10 bit for some reason, not 12.

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45 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Not "the" but "a" temporary solution to alleviate the overbrightness.

The SU5 overexposure has generated a cascade of threads where people bring a myriad of solutions often focused on HDR. I thought it might be useful to have a thread focused on old non-HDR capable monitors like mine (a 2013 Dell) and Nvidia cards (mine is a 1080 vanilla).

For those having a Nvidia bur are unfamiliar with the accompanying software which is often rather stupidly IMO discarded as bloatware, Nvidida GE Experience has filters that you can activate game by game with a brightness/contrast panel parameters Exposure, Contrast, Highlights (ie bright tones), Shadows (ie dark tones) , Gamma. 

If you do it, choose a weather with a strong light and big clouds.

One drawback : the launching images when the game is loaded are degraded but you can get some good results in game.

Thanks for this as i'm on a cheap 1080p non HDR monitor and my sim is way too over exposed ever since MSFS was launched..lol

I already have GE installed, so i'll give that a try.

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I tested it. Definitely helps to mitigate that Bloomy, washed out, oversaturated tone.  I will try to post some before-after pics from my initial tests. 

 

 

Iñigo Bildarratz

Vanilla, after SU5 +Hotfix (note that milky tone to everything)

1.jpg

After a 5 min experiment...

2.jpg

Completely unedited images.

Far from perfect or satisfactory, of course. But something can be done as Asobo fixes this HDR fiesta.

 

 

Edited by Aristoteles

 

 

Iñigo Bildarratz

Even easier, try the following:

Right click on the desktop then select the NVIDIA Control Panel.

Select "Adjust desktop color display task" from the "Display" section

If you have more than one monitor, be sure that the one on which MSFS will display is selected in section 1.

In section 3, adjust the Gamma slider to a value around 0.8.

Easy peasy. This will move the middle tones to darker values and give you back a reasonable image again. This probably won't help for your screen shots and videos, but it's an easy fix for actually flying. Don't forget to reset the Gamma value to 1.0 when leaving MSFS, or just don't save changes when closing the NVIDIA Control Panel. 

Good luck. Stay safe.

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i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor

 

1 hour ago, Stoopy said:

Good post and fully agree with you.  I've found success with the following filters in this order:

  1. Sharpen
  2. Brightness / Contrast
  3. Color

 

 

I wish I could use the "-" and "+" for the Exposure setting ( but not only for this setting )

Is there a way for doing this ?

If it's to 0, it's too much, if I want to reduce it, it goes stright to    -12    which is a bit too much

Any tips are welcome, thank you

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1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

You need to download GE Experience if not already done. Then you activate a working overlay with ALT A, select games filters then the brightness and contrast panel. Come back if you have problem.

Thank you!

I'll try it!

 

 

2 hours ago, Aristoteles said:

Can those settings be activated with a keybind , so that we just activate them once ingame?

there is a utility called gamma panel that works with keystrokes, i  set a varetie of settings under 0 t/ 6 keypad numkeys.

works easy. i used this right from the beginning because it was too dark under clouds for me.

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