For those of you happy with UTL would I be correct in assuming you fly in the US and Europe rarely venturing to the lesser ‘popular’ parts of the world?

If so I can understand your satisfaction. But try repositioning to Mumbai or Johannesburg and see how much coverage there is. And even in the Caribbean do you have all those small airlines flying ATR72s with their very colourful liveries?

It’s those areas where AIG excels as well as many more airlines at the major airports.

6 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

For those of you happy with UTL would I be correct in assuming you fly in the US and Europe rarely venturing to the lesser ‘popular’ parts of the world?

If so I can understand your satisfaction. But try repositioning to Mumbai or Johannesburg and see how much coverage there is. And even in the Caribbean do you have all those small airlines flying ATR72s with their very colourful liveries?

It’s those areas where AIG excels as well as many more airlines at the major airports.

Probably true.  I fly U.S. and Europe mostly.  However, I often fly in Asia (Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, Viet Nam).  I don't seem to have much difficulty with seeing aircraft in Asia either.  Very remote parts of the world, I admit, are places I rarely fly.

@spilok, Stan, if you’re curious I have the Narita RJAA airport. If you have the 3rd party one tell me how many different airlines you have for a day and local time. Let’s see how close AIG is to UTL.

9 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

For those of you happy with UTL would I be correct in assuming you fly in the US and Europe rarely venturing to the lesser ‘popular’ parts of the world?

If so I can understand your satisfaction. But try repositioning to Mumbai or Johannesburg and see how much coverage there is. And even in the Caribbean do you have all those small airlines flying ATR72s with their very colourful liveries?

It’s those areas where AIG excels as well as many more airlines at the major airports.

Yes, UTL works fine for me here in the US as well as Mexico and Central America.

Just now, pgde said:

Yes, UTL works fine for me here in the US as well as Mexico and Central America.

With respect, that’s like saying I like Prosecco when you haven’t tasted champagne. 😉

5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@spilok, Stan, if you’re curious I have the Narita RJAA airport. If you have the 3rd party one tell me how many different airlines you have for a day and local time. Let’s see how close AIG is to UTL.

Sure Ray.

At 2 PM, I set up a flight from RJAA Narita (an airport I've been to in person) with UTL active. I have the DEFAULT airport, and not a 3rd party one.  The airlines I saw there were the following:

• Japan Airlines (over 15 counted)
• Air China
• Phillipines
• Hainan Airlines 
• Eva Air
• Etihad Airlines
• United Airlines 
• China Airlines

I then flew from Narita to Inchon, South Korea.  Had a very turbulent flight most of the way.  However when I landed in Inchon, I took a helicopter around the entire airport to check on all the airlines there.  Here are the airlines I encountered in South Korea (again,a default airport...no 3rd party)

• Korean Airlines  (many, many of them on Jetways)
• China Eastern
• Asiana Airlines
• Delta Airlines
• Turkish Airlines
• KLM
• Thai Airlines

Conclusion:  I am very satisfied with the airlines I'm seeing at most of the airports I use, and I still believe UTL is a great program for me.  

ps.  And I enjoy hamburgers as well as filet mignon.  

Stan

Edited January 16, 20224 yr by spilok

Stan. That’s an impressive list. If that’s 14:00 local on Sunday (today) I’ll setup P3D tomorrow for that time and report back. What time did you land in Inchon?

14 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Stan. That’s an impressive list. If that’s 14:00 local on Sunday (today) I’ll setup P3D tomorrow for that time and report back. What time did you land in Inchon?

Sorry.  Didn't check the time.  But it was at least a 2.5 hour flight.  Also, keep in mind that I set UTL on 60% for airlines and 60% for GA.  I guess there would be more planes if I upped it to 100%.

Edited January 16, 20224 yr by spilok

Hi guys.

Another very happy camper with UTL1 here. The only thing that annoys the hell out of me are the planes popping in at the gates. Was anyone able to solve that ?

thanks

eduardo

Hi Guys,

Another very happy user of UTL1,would never go back to the old days of installing each livery separately,just install UTL and every livery is there.

Gary Jones.

6 minutes ago, Benbo said:

Hi Guys,

Another very happy user of UTL1,would never go back to the old days of installing each livery separately,just install UTL and every livery is there.

Gary Jones.

But those will include defunct airlines. The beauty of the AIG system is it’s modular. Once an airline is no longer operational you just delete the BGL and all associated files are removed.

3 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

But those will include defunct airlines. The beauty of the AIG system is it’s modular. Once an airline is no longer operational you just delete the BGL and all associated files are removed.

Hi Ray,

Im sure passing the odd defunct airline is not going to cause a major problem,adds a bit of nostalgia to the sim,but i suppose everyone to there own,its definitely UTL for me.

Gary.

Just now, Benbo said:

Hi Ray,

Im sure passing the odd defunct airline is not going to cause a major problem,adds a bit of nostalgia to the sim,but i suppose everyone to there own,its definitely UTL for me.

Gary.

That’s fine Gary. It’s a purely subjective decision. I’ve retained Flybe for nostalgic reasons. But the pandemic has resulted in a lot of airlines no longer operating.

Also, those still operating have stopped using certain aircraft such as Virgin no longer operate 747s.

22 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

That’s fine Gary. It’s a purely subjective decision. I’ve retained Flybe for nostalgic reasons. But the pandemic has resulted in a lot of airlines no longer operating.

Also, those still operating have stopped using certain aircraft such as Virgin no longer operate 747s.

Its really great to still see the BA and Virgin 747s parked at the gates at EGLL.

Hi Stan,

I'm parked at Drzewiecki RJAA at 14:00 local on Sunday 16 Jan. I have 100% Ai and GA selected in P3Dv5.3HF1.

Here are the airlines listed:-

• Aeromexico
• Air Busan
• Air Hongkong
• Peach
• Alitalia
• All Nippon
• Cargojet
• Cathay
• Cebu Pacific
• China Eastern
• Etihad
• Eva Air
• Express Wing
• Fedex
• German Cargo
• Atlas Air
• Hongkong Shuttle
• Jeju Air
• Korean Air
• Nippon Cargo
• Jetstar
• Philippine Airlines
• Siberian Airlines
• United
• Vietnam Airlines
• Scat Airlines

A total of 74 Ai on the ground at RJAA with 23 inbound

Over at Inchon (RKSI) at 16:30 local I have the following at the default airport:-

• Air Hongkong
• Air Incheon
• Peach
• Air Seoul
• CH Com Airlines
• Asiana
• China Eastern
• China Southern
• Cool Red
• Delta
• EaStar Jet
• Fedex
• Jeju Air
• Jin Air
• KLM
• Korean Air
• Qatari
• Siberian Airlines
• T'Way

80 on the ground with 37 inbound.