9 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Don't forget that the TIR profile itself can save the Pause and Center assignments. I'd look in the profile to see what is mapped there.

That's interesting -- didn't realize that. So different TrackIR profiles can use different Hot keys (or buttons) for Center, Pause, etc. I can see that might come in handy when using different controllers. You might use a particular button for Center on your yoke, and a different one for Center on your joystick.

Al

Edited January 18, 20224 yr by ark

Just now, ark said:

That's interesting -- didn't realize that. So different TrackIR profiles can use different Hot keys (or buttons) for Center, Pause, etc.

Al

That is what I suggested awhile back. 

Well I still have not solved my problem, but I have a question for any that have a TrackIR setup. If you open Controls Options and see all your controllers, does the TrackIR device disappear from the page when you pause it?  When I pause and the view snaps back forward the device vanishes from the setup screen and unpausing brings it back.

So frustrating, TrackIR works perfectly in my other games

Good Morning!
Yes - this is the "normal" way it happens Rem. You also mentioned noticing this on the previous page, but I omitted confirming it: sorry! Our assumption is that (as the screen viewpoint also changes at the same time) - there is another key/button - which is assigned "somewhere" - that causes that change.

In my case - I found 2, maybe 3 "D"'s (right-red button, Saito yoke button #3 ) that were also set in one of the Camera (Mode?) settings. After I deleted them - the problem disappeared.

Going back maybe five/six days prior to that fix, though - after coming out of the beta, (having 113Gig update), flying a couple of flights and thinking that the problem had been fixed, (because it appeared to be completely normal at that time) - I had selected "TIR OFF" with the in-flight "Arrow" camera, and then hit a Ctrl-something, to toggle an instrument view - a "Ctrl-'0' to '9'" or so, - a fixed, instrument view.. That worked normally, but - on re-enabling TIR in the Arrow screen again - it was broken, and went to center-screen!!! so I got rid of every "Ctrl" camera" assignment.. That fixed the Ctrl- issue, but now I was suddenly back to a broken TIR (again). I didn't know why, and still don't.  So I went looking for another assignment of that "D" key in the Yoke's Camera settings - and found 2 or 3 of them. After deleting them - it has behaved perfectly.

Edited January 18, 20224 yr by Paul J

16 minutes ago, Paul J said:

Good Morning!
Yes - this is the "normal" way it happens Rem. You also mentioned noticing this on the previous page, but I omitted confirming it: sorry!

Thanks Paul, The hardware part looks to be ok. If I unplug all my controllers except the keyboard it still acts the same. It's looking more and more like it's in the sim's camera config but I am running out of ideas. Oh well, I can fly for now without the pause feature until I stumble across the solution.

Can you post your Cameras.cfg? Just the top two sections should suffice..

C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache

You may be correct Rem, - it could be some setting in the cfg, but I don't think so - that file doesn't appear to specify any or which specific keys have been configured to control the virtual 'pit camera.

Edited January 18, 20224 yr by Paul J

Here you go.

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = Cockpit
Guid = {B1386D92-4782-4682-A137-738E25D1BAB5}
Description = This is the description of the cockpit view
Origin = Cockpit
ShowPanel = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = True
PanPbhAdjust = Ordinal
PanPbhReturn = True
Track = None
ShowAxis = FrontOnly
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
HotKeySelect=2

[CameraDefinition.002]
Title = Virtual Cockpit
Guid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-4E2A-A34C-D8D9D948F078}
Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view.
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.7
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=30
HeadingPanRate=75
PanAcceleratorTime=0
HotKeySelect=1

 

Yup - this is the stock cfg. Identical to mine. What pause key have you got configured ATM?

F9

OK. When you configured one of the yoke's buttons - did you check all of the other on-screen yoke settings to see if that button was used elsewhere?  The reason I'm asking is - that while F9 is not one of the default simulator keys (and should be ok) - if it is configured anywhere by accident - you have 101 keys (times # of cameras) to go through to check for a duplicate use. If you assign a yoke button - you have only maybe twenty x # of cameras. If you clean out every camera for the yoke then you (should have) have fixed it.
The Mode section may be an issue. .

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AueVg7eVAeXMlUGQze2OExa-5FyN?e=1xtWhQ

Edited January 18, 20224 yr by Paul J

Changed the above slightly, Rem: it should read "If you clean out every camera for the yoke then you (should have) have fixed it."
The sim should not have any button specifically assigned to pause a camera.   Only TIR itself should have that assignment.

 

Edited January 18, 20224 yr by Paul J

12 minutes ago, Paul J said:

Changed the above slightly, Rem: it should read "If you clean out every camera for the yoke then you (should have) have fixed it."
The sim should not have any button specifically assigned to pause a camera.   Only TIR itself should have that assignment.

 

I got it working Paul I just realized I have a Tobii Eyetracker. apparently Tobii was interfering with TrackIR. I disabled my Tobii and all is working fine! I wish there was a switch in MSFS to turn Tobii off without unplugging it.

I want to thank you and everyone in this thread for sticking with me on this and helping out.

Phew!  Right now there's about 100 other flightsim guys (wives too!) - all breathing a great big sigh of relief!! What a lesson!

I can just see the first question for the next person that has a TIR problem . . .
                      1). Do you have any other head or eye tracking device or software running on your PC? . . . .

All the Best,

pj

8 minutes ago, Paul J said:

Phew!  Right now there's about 100 other flightsim guys (wives too!) - all breathing a great big sigh of relief!! What a lesson!

I can just see the first question for the next person that has a TIR problem . . .
                      1). Do you have any other head or eye tracking device or software running on your PC? . . . .

All the Best,

pj

My guess is very few people that use Track IR would get another head tracking device. Track IR pretty much does everything well.