TrackIR Pause Button (F9) Dose Not Freeze Screen

[ark 1,198]

9 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Don't forget that the TIR profile itself can save the Pause and Center assignments. I'd look in the profile to see what is mapped there.

That's interesting -- didn't realize that. So different TrackIR profiles can use different Hot keys (or buttons) for Center, Pause, etc. I can see that might come in handy when using different controllers. You might use a particular button for Center on your yoke, and a different one for Center on your joystick.

Al

Edited January 18, 2022 by ark

[Bobsk8 10,462]

Just now, ark said:

That's interesting -- didn't realize that. So different TrackIR profiles can use different Hot keys (or buttons) for Center, Pause, etc.

Al

That is what I suggested awhile back. 

[remilton 64]

Well I still have not solved my problem, but I have a question for any that have a TrackIR setup. If you open Controls Options and see all your controllers, does the TrackIR device disappear from the page when you pause it?  When I pause and the view snaps back forward the device vanishes from the setup screen and unpausing brings it back.

So frustrating, TrackIR works perfectly in my other games

[Paul J 341]

Good Morning!
Yes - this is the "normal" way it happens Rem. You also mentioned noticing this on the previous page, but I omitted confirming it: sorry! Our assumption is that (as the screen viewpoint also changes at the same time) - there is another key/button - which is assigned "somewhere" - that causes that change.

In my case - I found 2, maybe 3 "D"'s (right-red button, Saito yoke button #3 ) that were also set in one of the Camera (Mode?) settings. After I deleted them - the problem disappeared.

Going back maybe five/six days prior to that fix, though - after coming out of the beta, (having 113Gig update), flying a couple of flights and thinking that the problem had been fixed, (because it appeared to be completely normal at that time) - I had selected "TIR OFF" with the in-flight "Arrow" camera, and then hit a Ctrl-something, to toggle an instrument view - a "Ctrl-'0' to '9'" or so, - a fixed, instrument view.. That worked normally, but - on re-enabling TIR in the Arrow screen again - it was broken, and went to center-screen!!! so I got rid of every "Ctrl" camera" assignment.. That fixed the Ctrl- issue, but now I was suddenly back to a broken TIR (again). I didn't know why, and still don't.  So I went looking for another assignment of that "D" key in the Yoke's Camera settings - and found 2 or 3 of them. After deleting them - it has behaved perfectly.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Paul J

[remilton 64]

16 minutes ago, Paul J said:

Good Morning!
Yes - this is the "normal" way it happens Rem. You also mentioned noticing this on the previous page, but I omitted confirming it: sorry!

Thanks Paul, The hardware part looks to be ok. If I unplug all my controllers except the keyboard it still acts the same. It's looking more and more like it's in the sim's camera config but I am running out of ideas. Oh well, I can fly for now without the pause feature until I stumble across the solution.

[Paul J 341]

Can you post your Cameras.cfg? Just the top two sections should suffice..

[Paul J 341]

C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache

You may be correct Rem, - it could be some setting in the cfg, but I don't think so - that file doesn't appear to specify any or which specific keys have been configured to control the virtual 'pit camera.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Paul J

[remilton 64]

Here you go.

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = Cockpit
Guid = {B1386D92-4782-4682-A137-738E25D1BAB5}
Description = This is the description of the cockpit view
Origin = Cockpit
ShowPanel = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = True
PanPbhAdjust = Ordinal
PanPbhReturn = True
Track = None
ShowAxis = FrontOnly
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
HotKeySelect=2

[CameraDefinition.002]
Title = Virtual Cockpit
Guid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-4E2A-A34C-D8D9D948F078}
Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view.
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.7
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=30
HeadingPanRate=75
PanAcceleratorTime=0
HotKeySelect=1

 

[Paul J 341]

Yup - this is the stock cfg. Identical to mine. What pause key have you got configured ATM?

[remilton 64]

F9

[Paul J 341]

OK. When you configured one of the yoke's buttons - did you check all of the other on-screen yoke settings to see if that button was used elsewhere?  The reason I'm asking is - that while F9 is not one of the default simulator keys (and should be ok) - if it is configured anywhere by accident - you have 101 keys (times # of cameras) to go through to check for a duplicate use. If you assign a yoke button - you have only maybe twenty x # of cameras. If you clean out every camera for the yoke then you (should have) have fixed it.
The Mode section may be an issue. .

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AueVg7eVAeXMlUGQze2OExa-5FyN?e=1xtWhQ

Edited January 18, 2022 by Paul J

[Paul J 341]

Changed the above slightly, Rem: it should read "If you clean out every camera for the yoke then you (should have) have fixed it."
The sim should not have any button specifically assigned to pause a camera.   Only TIR itself should have that assignment.

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Paul J

[remilton 64]

12 minutes ago, Paul J said:

Changed the above slightly, Rem: it should read "If you clean out every camera for the yoke then you (should have) have fixed it."
The sim should not have any button specifically assigned to pause a camera.   Only TIR itself should have that assignment.

 

I got it working Paul I just realized I have a Tobii Eyetracker. apparently Tobii was interfering with TrackIR. I disabled my Tobii and all is working fine! I wish there was a switch in MSFS to turn Tobii off without unplugging it.

I want to thank you and everyone in this thread for sticking with me on this and helping out.

[Paul J 341]

Phew!  Right now there's about 100 other flightsim guys (wives too!) - all breathing a great big sigh of relief!! What a lesson!

I can just see the first question for the next person that has a TIR problem . . .
                      1). Do you have any other head or eye tracking device or software running on your PC? . . . .

All the Best,

pj

[Bobsk8 10,462]

8 minutes ago, Paul J said:

Phew!  Right now there's about 100 other flightsim guys (wives too!) - all breathing a great big sigh of relief!! What a lesson!

I can just see the first question for the next person that has a TIR problem . . .
                      1). Do you have any other head or eye tracking device or software running on your PC? . . . .

All the Best,

pj

My guess is very few people that use Track IR would get another head tracking device. Track IR pretty much does everything well.