12 minutes ago, DJJose said:

and a 1080P monitor,

that explains why you can use any old CPU/GPU. I am running MSFS on a 55" TV at 4K or on a VR headset.

 

@Ricardo41"I kind of feel sorry for all the guys who waste money on overpriced hardware."

extremely happy with my "overpriced" hardware because I spend more time on it than with anything else. the fuel and annual inspection for my real airplane were even more overpriced. 😊

26 minutes ago, turbomax said:

 users who are happy with a 10 year old pc probably run at lower resolutions like 1K and may never have seen MSFS run at 4K. you can tell because they don't even mention their resolution.

Lol, what are you on about? I've mentioned many times that I'm running the sim at 1080 p on an ultrawidescreen monitor.

In addition, I've posted hundreds of screenshots showing exactly how things look on my end.

2 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

I've posted hundreds of screenshots

sorry didn't know that, will go and search the internet for those asap.

" 1080 p on an ultrawidescreen monitor. "

the GPU doesn't care if monitor is ultra wide or ultra slim, all that matters is resolution as far as required GPU performance is concerned.. I could run 1080p on my 4K TV, but never have and never will.

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by turbomax

11 minutes ago, turbomax said:

that explains why you can use any old CPU/GPU. I am running MSFS on a 55" TV at 4K or on a VR headset.

 

@Ricardo41"I kind of feel sorry for all the guys who waste money on overpriced hardware."

extremely happy with my "overpriced" hardware because I spend more time on it than with anything else. the fuel and annual inspection for my real airplane were even more overpriced. 😊

I agree 100%. The cost of flying real airplanes pales in comparison to using a computer simulator. 😀

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by DJJose

4 minutes ago, turbomax said:

sorry didn't know that, will go and search the internet for those asap.

they are on the avsim screenshot forum.

I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/614890-kodiak-100-su8-beta-efpo-to-eftu/

Yeah, looks terrible

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by Ricardo41

21 minutes ago, turbomax said:

I remember in one of the early MSFS press tours they recommended to invest in the best GPU you can afford (more effective than CPU upgrade), and I followed their advice.

The CPU is probably more important, but at 4K you better have the GPU not be the bottleneck. A balanced system is the key, but MSFS is still the highly customizable and performance is hardware dependent.

How does a screenshot in any way tell us how well MSFS runs on a computer 😄

42 minutes ago, 6297J said:

How does a screenshot in any way tell us how well MSFS runs on a computer 

a picture is worth a thousand benchmarks 😊

2 minutes ago, turbomax said:

a picture is worth a thousand benchmarks 😊

I saw a photograph of Usain Bolt the other day. He was going so fast! 😁

47 minutes ago, 6297J said:

How does a screenshot in any way tell us how well MSFS runs on a computer 😄

I posted all that information about how the sim runs on my system many times as well.

Maybe read my posts. Lol.

But I can see I'm hitting a nerve. Ha ha.

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by Ricardo41

Just now, Ricardo41 said:

I posted all that information about how the sim runs on my system many times as well.

Maybe read my posts. Lol.

Oh I have no doubt you are happy with the performance you are getting. Pretty screen shots don't really provide evidence of anything though.

Lol.  

So because I assembled a high end rig that cost me a considerable amount of money that makes me a fool?

7 minutes ago, Scimiter said:

So because I assembled a high end rig that cost me a considerable amount of money that makes me a fool?

There's a sucker (customer) born every minute. 😀

To be fair, the OP is implying that he was a "fool" for buying a new machine. But, we have done a good job clarifying that he really wasn't.

Now let's all get back to our regular schedule.

I don't think anybody is saying that anybody is a fool, just that you don't need the latest hardware to run MSFS well enough to enjoy it. Which we already knew. 

You also don't need a 4K Sony Bravia to enjoy watching TV if you already have a 1970's black and white. 

8 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

So my understanding is that when you add all the add-ons for P3D to make the graphics look as good as possible, the FPS is still worse than MSFS, right? And ditto for XP 11 with all the add-ons to make the graphics look as good as possible?

I would agree, and it is not only the max. FPS but frame time (provides regular constant time between frames thus reduces stutter) especially considering those other 2 simulators still don't come close graphics quality wise. and there is a reason: those others don't make such intensive use of modern GPU programming, (examples: ocean waves, new Computed Fluid Dynamics in SU8 etc)  i.e. MSFS could never run that smooth had Asobo not employed that modern graphics programming technique, offloading code from the CPU to the GPU. 99% GPU load even on a RTX 3090 is a clear indicator for that.

"GPGPU pipelines were developed at the beginning of the 21st century for graphics processing (e.g. for better shaders). These pipelines were found to fit scientific computing needs well, and have since been developed in this direction. The high performance of GPUs comes at the cost of high power consumption, which under full load is in fact as much power as the rest of the PC system combined"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_computing_on_graphics_processing_units

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by turbomax