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3 hours ago, ckyliu said:

Note the carbon brakes on aircraft are not the same as the carbon ceramic brakes on high performance cars. They are typically carbon fibre strands within a graphite matrix. I think the automotive ones use other resins instead and sometimes the carbon is woven (not entirely sure on this, don't have the budget for those brakes on my own vehicle)?

Also I know some ground handling services can provide brake fans upon request during turnaround.

If the brakes are overheated they also recommend releasing parking brakes when chocks are in place to help them cool. Can't take off over a certain temperature limit. 

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12 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

If the brakes are overheated they also recommend releasing parking brakes when chocks are in place to help them cool. Can't take off over a certain temperature limit. 

This is mostly to avoid excessive heat transfer to the brake fluid which could reach boiling point via the pads touching the hot discs and less for cooling efficiency. Same principle applies to cars by the way, if you are stopping after a very enthusiastic driving session you should let your brakes cool before applying the park brake.

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My amazement and appreciation for the "Fenix way" and how they're taking care of their customers while delivering one of (if not the most) complex and immersive aircraft implementation for a sim is never going to cease... @Aamir and team, please just keep on doing what you do, and MSFS will be all the better for it.

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40 minutes ago, Makinen11 said:

This is mostly to avoid excessive heat transfer to the brake fluid which could reach boiling point via the pads touching the hot discs and less for cooling efficiency. Same principle applies to cars by the way, if you are stopping after a very enthusiastic driving session you should let your brakes cool before applying the park brake.

This is true.  There are many good practical reasons for it.  At the Nürburgring, after a few quick laps, I put my front wheels in a little gutter channel in the car park so that I didn't have to apply the parking brake.  I noticed a lot of other drivers doing it as well.


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1 hour ago, Aamir said:

What is incorrect, however, is that our implementation drops the immediate temperature a little too much. So, we'll be tweaking that, that one is on me! Sorry about that!

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The A320 is already a gem of an aircraft, but thank you for continuing to make it better, even on the small things like brake fan temps.
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36 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

This is true.  There are many good practical reasons for it.  At the Nürburgring, after a few quick laps, I put my front wheels in a little gutter channel in the car park so that I didn't have to apply the parking brake.  I noticed a lot of other drivers doing it as well.

Your 2CV goes that fast?

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To expand slightly further as I know there were some requests here - yes, we will look into expanding the brake modelling a little further to include some of the bits you guys were talking about. I'll be honest in saying you shouldn't expect this stuff to come immediately in the next couple of patches, but it's definitely on the radar.

As a fun little sidenote, next time any of you work up some temps in the brakes due to an RTO or a nice short field landing, once you park up (provided the brakes are still nice and toasty) - shut the airplane down and go for a walk-around. Pay close attention when you get to the main gear and more importantly, listen carefully!

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I just noticed also that the flaps shake when in turbulence or you overstress the aircraft by pulling up on the stick. Insane detail in this aircraft and it can only get better!

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56 minutes ago, shamrockflyer said:

I just noticed also that the flaps shake when in turbulence or you overstress the aircraft by pulling up on the stick. Insane detail in this aircraft and it can only get better!

well, you cannot "overstress" the plane while in normal law.  If memory serves me correctly, the sidestick load factor limit with flaps down is 0 - 2.0 G.  The flap shaking are simply aerodynamic forces...which Fenix modeled.

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