I am trying to move the cockpit camera to a position where I can see the panel containing lighting switches etc which is at the 'rear' of the overhead panel (in the Aerosoft Otter) but can only see the throttles which are at the 'front' (nearest windscreen) of the overhead panel. I seemed to tried using everything possible to move the camera view to view this part of the overhead panel but cannot see it close up only when moving the camera view back.

What is the method to view close up the 'rear' of an overhead panel?

Thanks.

 

I would include a snapshot of the screen to demonstrate better but cannot work out how to include an images other than via a url.

 

 

Upload images on your computer to Imgur (by clicking your mouse). Of course you first have to register. I registered on Imgur by clicking on 'sign up with Google'. That way I did not need to make a password or anything like that.

Then click on your username at Imgur. Then click on one of your own stored images on your own page on imgur. A popup with the link will be displayed. Just click on that popup and the link jumps into your clipboard. Then paste from your clipboard to a forum message here.

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12 hours ago, Jarnie said:

What is the method to view close up the 'rear' of an overhead panel?

I use the hat switch on my yoke to change view direction.. once I have the desired view lined up, I use CTRL+ALT+n to save the view, and can go back to it at any time by using ALT+n.

Edited June 24, 20223 yr by Bert Pieke

(Cockpit Camera Section)

Translate cockpit view forward, backward, left, or right to move straight instead of panning. 

Increase or decrease cockpit view height to move straight up or straight down.

Those 6 movements can take you anywhere.

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 keyboard controls: Every default Flight Sim key in the game | GamesRadar+

 

 

By the way, translate cockpit view forward or backward is NOT the same as moving forward and back with the mouse wheel.

One of these moves BOTH the outside scenery seen thru the windscreen AND the cockpit scenery.

And the other moves ONLY the cockpit scenery and leaves the outside scenery alone.

Zooming with mouse wheel is like zooming with a camera lens, everything increases or decreases in size.

Translating cockpit view forward or backward, is like moving your seat in the plane forward or backwards. i.e. the dash  gauges all look bigger because you are closer. But the scenery through the glass does not change. Because objects hundreds of feet away don't change apparent size when you slide your seat 6 inches. But the gauges sure do!

Let's say you don't have fps locked in options. If you zoom the scenery closer, your fps will increase. Instantly you will have better framerate performance

3 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

I use the hat switch on my yoke to change view direction..

That is exactly what I have been using to change the view direction. The view just will not move any further 'back' once it gets to the throttle lever (on the roof in front of the overhead switch panel.

 

Thanks 'Fielder' for your help not only with methods to upload an image but also the other methods of changing camera view which I will try shortly.

Also I just remembered that use Mega.nz (cloud) and so have uploaded the image their and here is the url to get it

overhead panel

 

Lastly I signed up with Imgur and uploaded the image there and obtained a url address but when I try and add it via 'insert image from URL) click 'insert into post' nothing happens.

 

[added later]  I tried those keys in the document (Cockpit camera) and still cannot 'pan' further back on the overhead panel close up to view the lighting switches. If I use the hat switch 'pushed forward) or the 'up arrow' the view does NOT go all the way to the rear of the overhead panel. It just stops. Its as if the pilot cannot raise his face anymore. I am sure in the past I could keep moving the camera view upwards until it showed the view behind the pilot.

Edited June 25, 20223 yr by Jarnie
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6 hours ago, Jarnie said:

That is exactly what I have been using to change the view direction. The view just will not move any further 'back' once it gets to the throttle lever (on the roof in front of the overhead switch panel.

maybe  this  might  help   dont  know works  for  me  in all aircraft  i got  in msfs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vUZL-QG4V8&t=940s

 

Edited June 25, 20223 yr by pete_auau

Thanks Pete.

I have watched that video in the past to work out how to set up cockpit camera positions but can't remember noticing it explaining how to MOVE the camera POSITION backwards (or forwards) as that is what I think I need so that I can then pan upwards and view the rear of the overhead panel.

In the meantime I experimented and actually must have moved the camera position backwards and then panned upwards and saw the rear of the overhead panel which I then saved/assigned to number (key) 9.

I must try and work out how to MOVE the camera backwards (or forwards) for the future. Do you know how to do that? Maybe it might be 'slew' mode?

Edited June 25, 20223 yr by Jarnie
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23 minutes ago, Jarnie said:

Thanks Pete.

I have watched that video in the past to work out how to set up cockpit camera positions but can't remember noticing it explaining how to MOVE the camera POSITION backwards (or forwards) as that is what I think I need so that I can then pan upwards and view the rear of the overhead panel.

In the meantime I experimented and actually must have moved the camera position backwards and then panned upwards and saw the rear of the overhead panel which I then saved/assigned to number (key) 9.

I must try and work out how to MOVE the camera backwards (or forwards) for the future. Do you know how to do that? Maybe it might be 'slew' mode?

let you know  in a sec ok on my set  up  the 4   arrows  control my  up and  down  and  left  and  right movements,  and  the , and . keys  move  the  views  back  and  fwd  hope  this  helps   the  view  keys  are  listed  in  your  options  unders  views  camera  make  sure  you select  key board on the  top  and  select   the  all  assignments  on the  left  hand  side

Edited June 25, 20223 yr by pete_auau

Thanks again Pete

The , and . keys did nothing for me.

The "penny then dropped" that I needed to assign those keys as they are not already set up by default.

I assigned the , key to 'translate cockpit pit forward' and the . key to 'translate cockpit pit back' and tried again. SAME THING happens. I still cannot move back enough and in fact can't move back any more than the default position.

 

 

Edited June 25, 20223 yr by Jarnie
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Your image:

 

My image:

 

The up down forward back will not be the same keys after you rotate the eypoint view upward because you are not looking straight forward any more. To move up you have to translate in, and to move down you have to 'translate back' and so forth.

Edited June 26, 20223 yr by Fielder

2 hours ago, Fielder said:

To move up you have to translate in, and to move down you have to 'translate back' and so forth.

Thanks,

I do NOT understand what you mean.

HOWEVER I have resolved my 'problem' doing the following (starting with the default pilot camera view)

Moved the view to the CENTRE of the cockpit

Panned the camera completely around (180 degrees) so that the view is looking to the rear of the passenger area

'Moved' the camera view FORWARD so that the camera is then in the passenger area

Panned the camera completely around (180 degrees) so that the view is inside the passenger area but looking towards the cockpit

'Moved' the camera view FORWARD so the the view is then from the rear of the cockpit

'Panned' upwards and I now see the rear of the overhead panel which I then save as a cockpit view so that I can quickly get it again.

That might be a long way around to get what I wanted but it worked.

[added later]

I decided to use the A320 to see if I had the same problem of not being able to move the camera position backwards and I didn't.

So I went back to the Otter and tried again and it then worked.

I now have to assume that previously I didn't have the camera positioned close to the exact centre of the cockpit and so the backs of the seas were in the way preventing the camera from being moved backwards which seems to make sense (ie there was an obstacle, a seat back) preventing it moving backwards.

I hope this makes sense.

Edited June 26, 20223 yr by Jarnie
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Yeah, it makes sense, I followed that, understood what you were saying. 

I fly with a Thrustmaster Warthog stick and throttle which has a total of seven hats and all movement translations and rotations are assigned onto two of those hats. You can assign as many commands as you want onto the same one of any hat direction, so for instance moving one of my hats up will rotate the drone camera up, or rotate the cockpit camera up, or rotate the outside view camera up. 3 commands on one direction of one hat. One hat does all the rotations in all 3 camera modes. Moving one of those two hats UP is button 7.

 

So I can move the view around the cockpit probably faster than you are doing.