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I just picked up a 3080 with 12 GB vram. This will replace my trusty 1080 with 8 GB vram. It was on a flash sale  at newegg, good for 12 hours. What kind of improved performance can I look for in the new card.

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18 minutes ago, gregmorin said:

I just picked up a 3080 with 12 GB vram. This will replace my trusty 1080 with 8 GB vram. It was on a flash sale  at newegg, good for 12 hours. What kind of improved performance can I look for in the new card.

Greg

 

This might help somewhat: GeForce RTX 3080 10GB vs GTX 1080 Ti 11GB l 2160p

 

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Am I missing something? It looks to me like there is no visual difference at all. Or, maybe it's just my 80-year-old eyes.

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I don't think you can expect a big visual difference just performance

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Greg, I just upgrade a few weeks ago with the same upgrade.  I went from a 1080 to a 3080ti.  To me, this has contributed to the biggest difference in performance in my 40 years of working with PC's and 20 years of flight simming and development.  Granted, I upgraded everything (in my signature),  but I am getting great performance.  I have not overclocked anything yet I have settings on ultra for both P3Dv5 and MSFS.  I upgraded from 1080p to 1440 display so to me it was worth it.


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On 8/9/2022 at 7:08 PM, gregmorin said:

I just picked up a 3080 with 12 GB vram. This will replace my trusty 1080 with 8 GB vram. It was on a flash sale  at newegg, good for 12 hours. What kind of improved performance can I look for in the new card.

Greg

 

What are the specs of your other components? 

I went from a i5-9600K & 1080TI to an i7-12700K & 3080TI recently, don't expect to be able to run complex aircraft like the Fenix A320 or PMDG 737 at 60FPS in 4K at complex airports on Ultra settings as it will not happen with any hardware today. For the above 2 aircraft I lock my fps at 30 and always make sure I am always GPU limited. I run 4K and have every setting maxed out (@30FPS) and push my render scale to 130 to keep the 3080TI around 70% - 80% utilized. Making sure I am never Main Thread Limited gives a very stable frametime which is important for fluid performance without stutters.

For less demanding aircraft and airports I can easily achieve a consistent 60fps with a few settings tweaks but your mileage may vary depending on the rest of your system. As long as you have realistic expectations and take the time to tune the settings to your hardware you should see an improvement. Before I rebuilt my system I did try the 3080TI with my i5-9600K and saw a massive jump in the visuals of the sim. I would say the 3080TI was a really good upgrade.

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Thanks for the information. I am running an I7 8770K at 4.8. My limited factor in P3DV5.3 was the 8GB VRAM. I got very stable performance at detailed airports with the PMDG aircraft but had to limit the resolution to 1084. I am hoping to be able to upgrade the resolution with the additional 4GB Vram.

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The best compromise is to just run 1440p on a 4k TV or monitor and let it upscale. It looks the same as 4k for the most part, a few tiny differences that you have to pixel peep to notice. 

I have a card with similar performance to the 3080 (the AMD 6900xt), and I can tell you they both have plenty of juice for MSFS. When running VR mode is the only time you will really be wanting for a bit more, but you only have to turn down a couple things.

You can get incredibly cheap 4k TV's that have higher contrast than all the monitors except the QD-OLED monitors, if you can fit the larger size TV as a monitor. The 43" - 4k TCL TV I am using has a 6000:1 contrast ratio, auto-switches to gaming mode correctly, and was $250 and is close in sharpness when comparing to the Dell 4k monitor I had. There are some sleep mode annoyances with TV's though.

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On 8/13/2022 at 3:12 PM, Alpine Scenery said:

The best compromise is to just run 1440p on a 4k TV or monitor and let it upscale. It looks the same as 4k for the most part, a few tiny differences that you have to pixel peep to notice. 

I have a card with similar performance to the 3080 (the AMD 6900xt), and I can tell you they both have plenty of juice for MSFS. When running VR mode is the only time you will really be wanting for a bit more, but you only have to turn down a couple things.

You can get incredibly cheap 4k TV's that have higher contrast than all the monitors except the QD-OLED monitors, if you can fit the larger size TV as a monitor. The 43" - 4k TCL TV I am using has a 6000:1 contrast ratio, auto-switches to gaming mode correctly, and was $250 and is close in sharpness when comparing to the Dell 4k monitor I had. There are some sleep mode annoyances with TV's though.

Which TCL TV do you have? I also use a 43 inch 4 series and haven't had any issues with sleep mode 


 

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3 hours ago, RJC68 said:

Which TCL TV do you have? I also use a 43 inch 4 series and haven't had any issues with sleep mode 

The Roku version which is the TCL 43s435.
Do you have the Android version?


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2 hours ago, Alpine Scenery said:

The Roku version which is the TCL 43s435.
Do you have the Android version?

No I have the same Roku version.

What issues are you seeing?


 

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5 minutes ago, RJC68 said:

No I have the same Roku version.

What issues are you seeing?

If the TV turns itself off or goes into screensaver mode, the only way to wake up the TV to send output back to HDMI 1 is to hit a button on the remote, or in more extreme cases when the TV is fully sleeping I have to hit the power button. It's not that big of a deal but kind of annoying.

It could be my AMD GPU or maybe I have a setting wrong, maybe Nvidia has better sleep support.
 

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On 8/12/2022 at 9:10 AM, gregmorin said:

Thanks for the information. I am running an I7 8770K at 4.8. My limited factor in P3DV5.3 was the 8GB VRAM. I got very stable performance at detailed airports with the PMDG aircraft but had to limit the resolution to 1084. I am hoping to be able to upgrade the resolution with the additional 4GB Vram.

Greg

 

I'm running a 6700K and just upgraded to a 3080 12 GB. My monitor is an ASUS PG279Q (1440p) and it was a nice bump in quality because I was able to raise all non-main thread related settings to ultra: shadows, reflections, water waves, etc., clouds on high. I was even able to bump render scale to 110 to take advantage of the better sharpening that kicks in over 100 render scale (with my 1070 that killed GPU performance and I could not go over 100). I'm almost always main thread limited, but it's rarely a problem because I lock at 33 fps in the sim (refresh 100 mHz with vsync set at 20 in-sim). I'm not on the SU10 beta, but I get VERY smooth performance in all but the most demanding situations in the PMDG 737. With your 8770k you'll be slightly less limited, but will mostly see what I do - main thread limited unless you really dial back TLOD.

Was making an approach into KDTW in the PMDG last night and remarking to myself how it looked like watching a movie - so smooth and great visuals.

Next step is going to be a new MB and 12700K, but I'm having trouble parting with another $600 or so because it's working so well now in all but really demanding situations - and even then it's pretty good.

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