Has Austin or anyone from LR chimed in about how long a wait for future fixes of issues of initial release.  Also about priorities of which issues will be fixed first? 

For someone who has shelled out $60 for this first version, I do think this is a fair question; also, it would help others who haven't purchased this release yet.

ps: Looks to me that use of Simheaven's X-World will go a long way to solve a lot of the complaints about the initial release.

Edited September 12, 20223 yr by PDX Flyer
clarify topic

Updates roll in when they roll in and at some point Laminar simply assigns "r1" as a version number and that's it, XP12 is now a full blown official release. The more often an issue is reported the more likely it'll get fixed.

X-Plane has never operated by schedule, at least not as long as I'm following its development. If milestones with dates that are worse than a drunk best guess with very lax adherence are your thing, my advice is to find another sim. I heard a certain epic space sim is more than proficient in that field.

Edited September 12, 20223 yr by Bjoern

Hi @PDX Flyer

What Bjoern described is not far off from the truth. From my experience with Laminar Research, you will probably have something between 3-6 months of continues beta releases until they will fill that the sim is stable enough to flag it as v1.0.
Regarding road maps in programming, and that is also true for other sims, you can speculate about delivery times and it is hard to provide an exact date.

Last, if you look at the list of open issues, your will see there are some major issues and some that might be seen as minor ones.
From my perspective the lack of the new SDK is one of the major milestones that needs to be addressed, you can also see in the list that there are some missing features that are still in development.

You can still enjoy flying, most of the time, with default planes but I suggest to wait a little longer for more patches before hopping in. 

On 9/12/2022 at 5:35 PM, PDX Flyer said:

ps: Looks to me that use of Simheaven's X-World will go a long way to solve a lot of the complaints about the initial release.

Agreed - and for such an early release, i'm not complaining!

On 9/12/2022 at 8:57 PM, Bjoern said:

Updates roll in when they roll in and at some point Laminar simply assigns "r1" as a version number and that's it, XP12 is now a full blown official release. The more often an issue is reported the more likely it'll get fixed.

X-Plane has never operated by schedule, at least not as long as I'm following its development. If milestones with dates that are worse than a drunk best guess with very lax adherence are your thing, my advice is to find another sim. I heard a certain epic space sim is more than proficient in that field.

Exactly. To schedule an update for a fixed date and then having to rush it, although some new bugs showed up during development * doesn't help anyone, neither the publisher (leads to bad reputation) nor the customer.

*I'm a developer myself (however not software) and predicting an exact date for release is ... dumb.

Edited September 14, 20223 yr by flying_carpet

53 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Agreed - and for such an early release, i'm not complaining!

I had to do a double take on this one..thought you posted a real life pic.

 

See the blog:

https://developer.x-plane.com/2022/09/x-plane-12-early-access-is-here/?fbclid=IwAR3ISGexnKPfCQZ5DEujcnfe3AGnAQ9ltuuGEh-ZOq0pY1fz3KEJ4SH-Cac

52 minutes ago, Randall said:

See the blog:

https://developer.x-plane.com/2022/09/x-plane-12-early-access-is-here/?fbclid=IwAR3ISGexnKPfCQZ5DEujcnfe3AGnAQ9ltuuGEh-ZOq0pY1fz3KEJ4SH-Cac

Finally, a very good answer to all of the questions going on in my mind.

But another VERY BIG QUESTION: why isn't this information provided up front and easy to find on the X-Plane web site.  With this information in hand, folks could make a better informed decision if they choose to buy the product at this time.  Also, this might go a long way to quash a lot of the XP12 bashing that is going on the various web sites these days.  I think this failure to communicate to the general public is doing unnecessary harm to Austin and Company.

So ... are you listening Austin?

37 minutes ago, PDX Flyer said:

Finally, a very good answer to all of the questions going on in my mind.

But another VERY BIG QUESTION: why isn't this information provided up front and easy to find on the X-Plane web site.  With this information in hand, folks could make a better informed decision if they choose to buy the product at this time.  Also, this might go a long way to quash a lot of the XP12 bashing that is going on the various web sites these days.  I think this failure to communicate to the general public is doing unnecessary harm to Austin and Company.

So ... are you listening Austin?

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1 hour ago, PDX Flyer said:

Also, this might go a long way to quash a lot of the XP12 bashing that is going on the various web sites these days.  I think this failure to communicate to the general public is doing unnecessary harm to Austin and Company.

Not necessarily ... there will always be people bashing for bashings sake.

 

1 hour ago, PDX Flyer said:

But another VERY BIG QUESTION: why isn't this information provided up front and easy to find on the X-Plane web site.

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So ... are you listening Austin?

Not this wrong ... but I think, people who are REALLY interested in details, will find the dev blog.

However, if you want - drop him an email with your suggestion (he doesn't read the avsim forums): [email protected].