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What is causing this aircraft behaviour in FSX; even before you fly with it; so i mean when i choose an default FSX aircraft the"viewwindow"is showing the "weird" ones.I have really done everything 'people'in the forums have already adviced. But nothing helped sofar.There is one way left; ACES the designer of FSX.Thank you inadvance.Kind regards.Bert

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How many people are seeing this problem? All or a few?Happens on clean RTM? Happens on clean SP1? By that I mean absolutely no add-ons, no changes, nothing. Is it only on nV 7xxx series?

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Bert that might be a video driver problem. I've seen video corruption issues with the following:1) overclocking2) bad video driver3) Direct3D problemPlease post your vid hardware and vid driver version. And whether or not you are overclocking.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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hmmm whenever I've seen that happen my card has been on the way out....What's your temps ?

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As others have posted, this is usually either:1)a graphics card/driver problem2)a missing texture with the aircraftIts hard to tell from a screenshot what specific issue a specific config may have. There is no magic.The fact that everyone doesnt see this indicates it is, usually, a local problem.

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Phil,That was my picture from the other day. I tried:- reinstalling / changing graphics drivers,- stress testing my graphics card to see if it was on the way out (it was good),- reinstalling FSX and SP1,- reinstalling said aircraft (LDS 767), and even- cyring :-( Yesterday, I took out the big broom and installed XP, FSX and my few FSX treasures on my second hard drive. After about 15 hours of flying, I haven't seen textures like this since, whereas before I could conjur them up in about 10 mins.An extreme approach to fixing the problem, but it seems to have extremely worked!Gary

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I used to see this when the fan on my video card started malfunctioning, and some of the symptoms displayed were corrupted aircraft and ground textures. It is possible that high temperatures can cause this. A new replacement fan fixed the problem for me, although I'm not saying that this is the same etiology as in your case.Bert, can you list your system specifications? And what are the temps that you're getting while running FSX?

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Which kind of points to a graphic driver problem. It's not always easy to clean every last bit of driver out of a system. There may still have been something sitting around from another set of drivers, or, even something else.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)N15802 KASH '73 Piper Cherokee Challenger 180

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I'm getting this problem on my setup. It only occurs when switching between windowed and full screen (as far as I can see)I'm running my FSX+SP1 (clean no addons) on a P4 3.4 H/T laptop with a ATI 256mb graphics card - it can't be anything fancy though

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I even used driver cleaner, which supposedly finds every scrap left over from an uninstall and kills them, but it didn't make a cracker of a difference. Not to worry, things still seem to be working fine now with XP reinstalled.Gary

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Btw, we had someone with this issue in our 747 for FSX beta as well... so it's probably a bit more widespread than just a few users. I can get more details from the tester...

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>Bert that might be a video driver problem. I've seen video>corruption issues with the following:>1) overclocking>2) bad video driver>3) Direct3D problem>>Please post your vid hardware and vid driver version. And>whether or not you are overclocking.>>Rhett>>AMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS>A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150>gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb>5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorianhi Rhett,1. no overclocking2. latest drivers 162.15 94.24 and older certified ones tried always after cleaning.3. latest version of DX9.0C4. tried on old P4 3200 and brand new pc cor2duo E6600videocard 7600GT 256MB regardsBert

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>How many people are seeing this problem? All or a few?>>Happens on clean RTM? Happens on clean SP1? >>By that I mean absolutely no add-ons, no changes, nothing. >>Is it only on nV 7xxx series?>Phil,When flying on my "Round the world flight" over Japan (see link at bottom), at the settings I was using at the time, I received quite a few out of memory errors...Generally these errors would occur immediately after I switched from a VC view to an outside view and what I would see are images of my aircraft very similar to those above.Winding back my sliders a touch cured the problem including the OOM errors. Please note that the problem occurred for me at least 4 times before I tried the adjustment to the sliders, after which they never occurred again. Once past Japan and it's hugely complex and detailed scenery in FSX, I was able to wind my sliders back up to their previous position with no ill effects.Cheers,Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern AustraliaIntel Core 2 Duo E6700ASUS P5N32-E SLI Deluxe Motherboard4GB Corsair VS DDR2 667Mhz RAMInno3D 8800 GTX 768MB GDDR3 590MHz VideoASUS MW221u 21" Wide Screen LCD2 x 320Gb WD SATA DrivesCreative X-Fi Platinum Sound Lian Li PC-B20B Aluminium Black CaseMS Vista Ultimate OEMCH FlightSim Yoke USBCH Pro Pedals USBTrackIR 4 Pro and Track ClipMSFS FSX Deluxe Edition Full install at 1400x960x32Check out my 5th Around the World flight with MS FSX at http://members.iinet.com.au/~portercbp/fly...W_05/index.html

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I had that only once. It was when I purchased the Wilco 737 upgrade for FSX. The wilco site had a whole stack of liveries but it wasn't obvious that they wouldn't work properly in FSX. I removed the liveries and went back to the default then all was well again.Steven.

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For what it might be worth to anybody, I had this problem and found it to be a combination of me and my hardware (specs. attached).My motherboard has a card option for either single graphic board implementation or dual. I switched to dual and tried unsucessfully to use dual NVIDIA 8 series cards. When I went back to a single graphics card, I forgot to move the selection jumper card back to the single position.I got black aircraft textures, white aircraft textures, partial multi-tone aircraft textures, and complete aircraft textures off and on at different times. What threw me was that it worked fine sometimes, and didn't at others. I have posts regarding this issue with screenshots. The selection card position never crossed my mind as it worked fine some of the time.Put the jumper card back in the correct position and have not seen this since. If you have a motherboard with this type of option, be sure it is setup correctly relative to graphic configuration.Happy flying:RTHASUS P5N-E-SLI MotherboardIntel E6600 Core2 Duo CPUZalman CNPS7700-CU RT CPU Fam4 GB KST DII800 MemoryWinXP ProNVIDIA VCG8800GTX 768MB Primary Video Graphics Card21

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I am sure you would have taken care of this, but just in cae, check the AGP aperature size. I had this problem when that was set to 64MB, set it to 256 and everything was fine. AGP aperature sizeyou'll get in your bios.

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I saw this EXACT same graphic once, about a week ago on a heavily loaded region trying to depart Chicago O'Hare. In fact it looks like the same (LDS-767 - Delta) aircraft I was using, when it occured to me.That was on FSXsp1, WinXP, 2GB Ram, LDS-767(FMC 1.4.0.2), Ultimate Terrain-X, FSG-LC, FSG Mesh, ProjectAI, and a WideClient with ASX, RCv4, & FSrealtime. I'm prettys sure it was either may lack of using FS Autostart to defrag the memory or the current Nvidia driver 158.22 and my display configurations.One thing I do remember, was I had already had a FSX OOM CTD immediatly prior to that flight, and attempted to simply restart FSX with doing anything else. FSX stayed up, but was very sluggish. One thing that was really evident, I was trying to continue a flight with massive, massive, blurries (like the OP pic), hoping the textures would catch up once I departed the Chicago (high-graphic) region. It did not. I think the aircraft corruption was tied to the blurries (as a symptom) as well.I loaded the new Nvidia beta 162.15 last night and used Nhancer and Ryan's (Tab's) instructions to change out the Nvidia FS profiles. I also used DriverCleaner during the Nvidia installation. I also have now been flying with the "/3GB /userva=2560" switch in my boot.ini file. That wih Ryan's profile recommendations, I had the best looking, solid FPS flight with the default Baron, to date. I will retry with the LDS-767 this weekend out of O'Hare.

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hi TMilton,my specs are:asus P5Bdeluxe wifiCore2Duo E66002Gb DDR2 Ram PC6400Samsung 500GbNVidia 7600GT 256Mbtemps: motherboard 30/86 cpu 20/68 gpu 45/113 HD 31/88winXPPro SP2FSX deluxe SP1regardsBert

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Bert I have the same processor and video card(s)as you and I have never seen this problem.I'm also running 94.24's.What are the temps on your E6600 and 7600GT?My CPU and GPU run about 40

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If those are your temps while running FSX then you definitely aren't having an issue with heat.Weird how our specs are so similar yet you are seeing this problem and I am not.Michael

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Thanks Jim, I suspected as much. The point I was trying to make above was that I seemed to resolve it pretty easily was to back the sliders off a notch for a short period of time when the demands of the scenery made it necessary and then back up again when the circumstances permitted.I sort of draw some parallels with the old 640K barrier we used to have once upon a time where if we asked a bit too much of the OS or app, it would either not do anything or do some really wierd things.I guess we basically learnt to work within the limits of the then system. It seems to be a bit of a forgotten art today, whereby folks seem to want to run everything at 100%, 100% of the time.Maybe I am just old or old fashioned.Cheers and thanks,Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern AustraliaCheck out my 5th Around the World flight with MS FSX at http://members.iinet.com.au/~portercbp/fly...W_05/index.html

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I see from the attachments you are flying a texture addon showing Delta colors. Please make sure the texture folder contains a texture config file that may be added from any of the default textures for this same aircraft. I experienced the same problem when tinkering with a BBJ texture for the 737-800.

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>How many people are seeing this problem? All or a few?>>Happens on clean RTM? Happens on clean SP1? >>By that I mean absolutely no add-ons, no changes, nothing. >>Is it only on nV 7xxx series?>Hi Phil,Completely clean installment on a clean pc with winXPpro Sp2FSX with SP1no overclockingno high tempsno add-ons; no tweaks whatsoeverall the default aircraft behave "weird" except the Ultralight, the Bell206 and the Extra300hardware:Core2Duo E6600 with 2Gb Ram pc6400Powersupply 450wattAsus P5B deluxe wifiSamsung 500Gb HDNVidia 7600GT 256MbFujitsu/Siemens 19-3 LCDRegardsBert

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