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RealAir Citabria, Decathlon and Scout FSX package is out

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Just a heads up to let everyone know the RealAir Citabria, Decathlon and Scout FSX package has been released.Downloading as I type this.http://www.realairsimulations.com/flash.php?page=scout07_introMichael

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Thanks for heads-up Michael! Let us know how you like it. I'm a RealAir SF260 lover. erv

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Oh that is just not fair ... more money i *need* to spend ;-) Off to acquire right now ...Andrew

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Oh gosh! I just went out for two rides with the Scout. What shall I say? It's perfect. Instruments are fluid as usual. Night lighting is excellent. And I did not notice any FPS impact (as expected for such a small plane).Some may criticize the sterile look of the cockpit, but I don't care.Alex

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If I owned these planes in FS2004, but NO LONGER have FS2004 on my computer, can I still get the upgrade version for literally half the price?I do have documentation that has my buying details back then.How do I install the upgrade version without the old version on my system? Stan

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Hi Stan,Please e-mail me at RealAir and I will sort you out ok.Kind Regards,Rob Young - RealAir Simulations

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I downloaded and made a couple of scenic flights this morning. The plane is the best example of real world gauge response and flight charistics available for any desktop simulator. I wish I had not purchased it. (I own the FS9 version). When I fly low and slow I want to look at scenery. FSX presents a blurry mess which has nothing to do with RealAir. Of course I can eliminate the blurries by removing the trees, ultimate terrain, high resolution textures and no clouds. Then I'm left with FS98 or earlier low and slow. This is my last purchase for FSX until ACES fixes the #### thing. Bob....

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Hi Bob,I appreciate you are not blaming the Scout for your blurries. The odd thing is that after Sp1 and a few judicious tweaks in FSX.cfg I have no blurries at all, unless I do multiple and quick view switching or really push the scenery and autogen to the limits.Even more odd is that my computer is a very similar spec to yours. Have you investigated the well-publicised tweaks at Avsim and other forums, in particular the tweaks concerning Buffer Size, Fibre Frame rate and Multi Bandwidth entries in the cfg file?I also find that tweaking the Nvidia properties can make a huge difference, notably playing with AA, filtering and LOD bias.Kind Regards,Rob Young - RealAir Simulations

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Hi Rob,I don't want to hijack your thread for yet another blurries discussion. Yes I have tried the no blurries tweaks and give up. Here is your wonderful plane with no autogen, 5 meter textures and 1xhigh water. Beautiful isn't it? Your plane of course. :) Thanks again for delivering the highest quality package available. Bob...http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174605.jpg

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Ha Rob,Just made a .4 hr. short flight around our local lake from M20 in the "Green Machine"! Thank you very much, I'm now in a learning curve to fly these babies. Thanks again! ervIntel Core 2 X6800(3.22), P5W Deluxe, Coolmax 650W, Corsair DII800 4G, two 74G/WD 10,000 drives, ASUS 1900XT/512 Card, CoolMaster TAC-T01, Creative Sound Card, USB Logitech 350 Headset with Mic, Samsung 22

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>Hi Rob,>>I don't want to hijack your thread for yet another blurries>discussion. Yes I have tried the no blurries tweaks and give>up. Here is your wonderful plane with no autogen, 5 meter>textures and 1xhigh water. Beautiful isn't it? Your plane of>course. :) Thanks again for delivering the highest quality>package available. >>Bob...>>http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174605.jpg>Interesting.............. I use FSX because it's SO much sharper than FS9! I much prefer FSX over FS9 because the look of three dimensions is dramatically increased as I fly across the rising foothills of the mountainous KSLC area. This all has to do with high resolution textures and shading, that's available in FSX...............if you can see them! :-hah And I can! My texture settings are way up. I use FSGenesis & Ultimate Terrain. And water settings are at 2xlow. No autogen; & usually wouldn't use it if it had no fps hit. I do not have SP-1 installededit: Athlon 3800+/2Gig/Geforce 7600GS 256MB/ 1600*1200*32 res.Sharpness of FSX, and the RealAir SF260...http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174615.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174616.jpgThat good old (shown 100's of times) Hawaiian pic: :D http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174617.jpg

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Just a follow up to my original post now that I've had some stick time in these fine aircraft.Once again you guys put together a great package.They look amazing,fly amazing and absolutely no hit to the frame rate.Looking forward to anything else you guys decide to do.Here's a couple pics of the new package and one each of the SF-260 and Spitfire.Michael

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I'd love to have the scout but don't want the other two planes and don't want to spend that kind of money on a single plane since I would never fly the other two. They look nice though. Good work.________________________________________________________________________________________________Intel D975XBX2 'Bad Axe 2' | Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.20Ghz | 2 GB Super Talent DDR2 800 | Big Typhoon VX | eVGA 8800GTS @ 565/900 | Seagate 2x320GB SATA RAID-0 | OCZ GameXStream 700W | Creative X-Fi | Silverstone TJ-09BW | Matrox Triplehead Setup

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I think I have all those aircrafts from FS9 flying in FSX.What are the new thing that has been added to the FSX version? IS the added stuff as dramatic as the SF260?Manny

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HI Manny,Previous aircraft for FS9 which could spin and side slip cannot now do so in FSX because of the different architecture of FDE modelling in FSX. AS for other qualities, our website has straightforward and clear descriptions on everything you need to know, plus screenshots, and reviews. Kind Regards,Rob Young - RealAir Simulations

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Bought the package today. Very nice! You made my favorite light aircraft in FS9 even better for FSX. Thanks Rob and gang!Oh yeah... and the re-made Bear Gulch scenery is also welcome and beautiful. What fun! A great airport to hangar at until Emma for FSX is released. :)

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Does the Bear Gulch scenery co-exist with FSGenesis mesh and Ultimate Terrain?I had Emma Field in FS9 and it had some issues with the FSG mesh.Thanks,Jim

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Hi Jim.I don't have the FSGenesis mesh so someone else will have to answer that. I do have UTX and it looks great with it.

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OK..Got it. Very nice.MannyCan't wait for the twin engine now. :)PS: Spoke too soon. You have the Spitfire to complete as well.

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>>Can't wait for the twin engine now. :)>Yes the Beechcraft Duke...I may have to get that one, because I need something in between a C182 and an A320 to practice instrument approaches with.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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>I'd love to have the scout but don't want the other two>planes and don't want to spend that kind of money on a single>plane since I would never fly the other two. They look nice>though. Good work.It all depends on how you look at it. The SF260 costs $ 28,- and that's one plane. The Scout package costs $29,-...! So, you could also say you only buy the Scout for 29,- (quite a normal price for one addon plane) and as a bonus you get the other for free! When you look at it this way, it's no waste of money at all! Don't know if you own the SF260 but if you do, your line of thinking would mean you would NEVER have bought it if RealAir had added one or two bonus planes in the package for the same price. Know what I mean? ;)If you don't own the SF260 and/or just don't want to spend more than 20,- or so on a plane, you can forget about my post. :(

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>>I'd love to have the scout but don't want the other two>>planes and don't want to spend that kind of money on a>single>>plane since I would never fly the other two. They look nice>>though. Good work.>>It all depends on how you look at it. The SF260 costs $ 28,->and that's one plane. The Scout package costs $29,-...! So,>you could also say you only buy the Scout for 29,- (quite a>normal price for one addon plane) and as a bonus you get the>other for free! When you look at it this way, it's no waste of>money at all! >>Don't know if you own the SF260 but if you do, your line of>thinking would mean you would NEVER have bought it if RealAir>had added one or two bonus planes in the package for the same>price. Know what I mean? ;)>>If you don't own the SF260 and/or just don't want to spend>more than 20,- or so on a plane, you can forget about my post.>:(LOL I see you have gone from Saul the doubter to Paul the apostle. Keep it up and Real Air will have to add you to the payroll as a spokesperson. Glad to see you are learning so much about flying and having fun at the same time.

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These are the planes I've been waiting for since FSX was released, and all in all I'm pretty happy with the package. I received about 6 hours towards my tailwheel rating in a Citabria before I put the flying hobby on hiatus... that was about 3 years ago, but it's pretty hard to forget that beautiful plane!RealAir did a great job at capturing the ambiance of this plane in flight... This is a perfect plane to go sight seeing with, as you get half the horizon in front of you! The controls are nice and sharp, and she climbs like a rocket. As expected, the gauges are every bit as smooth and crisp as the SF260.My only disappointment is in the ground handling. The real Citabria takes a lot more work on the rudder to keep you out of the ditch (and that's probably an understatement :) ) During takeoff, rudder inputs feel a bit delayed vs. a tricycle gear a/c, so the initial response is to overcorrect and zig zag down the runway. And landings... well, they're real treat, and landing with any sideload on the gear will give you a ride for your money, to say the least. I'm guessing the shortcomings in the RealAir model are mostly due to limitations in FSX (for one, I've heard FSX can't simulate the weathervaning tendencies of tailwheel a/c). Then again, the default Piper Cub "feels" more like a tailwheel on the ground to me, if only because it takes more work on the ground than the tricycle a/c.Then again, you should be spending most of your time in the air with any aircraft :) This is a great VFR plane to cruise around in, especially using tileproxy. And you can do some loops and rolls in the Decathlon while you're at it!Paul

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>Interesting.............. I use FSX because it's SO much>sharper than FS9! I much prefer FSX over FS9 because the look>of three dimensions is dramatically increased as I fly across>the rising foothills of the mountainous KSLC area. This all>has to do with high resolution textures and shading, that's>available in FSX...............if you can see them! :-hah >And I can! >>My texture settings are way up. I use FSGenesis & Ultimate>Terrain. And water settings are at 2xlow. No autogen; &>usually wouldn't use it if it had no fps hit. I do not have>SP-1 installed>>edit: Athlon 3800+/2Gig/Geforce 7600GS 256MB/ 1600*1200*32>res.>>>Sharpness of FSX, and the RealAir SF260...Larry and Rob,Larry,I have tried everything including the hiring of mystics, wizards and spinning around on one leg to solve FSX. I have always assumed you were given the "special" FSX by the ACES team (you know the one they used to show Bill Gates) that performed flawlessly on a P2. :)I noticed we have simliar video cards (mine has more memory) and you use 1600 x 1200. I use 1280 x 960 and always assumed anything higher would further degrade performance. Well go figure. The 1600 x 1200 setting eliminated the blurries with the Scout. I now have auto gen normal, 1 meter textures, 10 meter FSG mesh, Ultimate Terrain (with a few lower settings). Go figure...Rob,I posted a few more in the Screen Shot forum.All the shots have been reduced from 3 megabytes to 40kb. They are sharp and clear at full reoslution. http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174713.jpg

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What can I say? I am RealAir fan and to this day....after many, many years, I have yet to fly ANY plane that lives up to the beauty, dynamics, or overall joy of flying these birds.Yes...I am waiting rather impatiently for the return of their Spitfire to FSX, but for now, I'm really happy with the 260, and the triad package released yesterday. I fly them on every startup of FSX and enjoy trying the Tundra-tired Scout in Alaska.I'm having fun...I hope all of you are, too.

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