P3dv5.3 speed up

[skip d]

I've just added an I9 10900 to an Asus Z590 with 3 M.2 ports.

I'm currently running P3d on an M.2 with 250GB....and wondering if I should move it to a PCIE Adapter

wii it increase anything...speed loading;better fraps;sharper scenery ????

Thanks for any advice

Skip d

[Luke]

You might notice the difference to your pocket book.

Cheers!

[Matthias1231]

In SATA mode the M.2 only gets around 500MB/s.

In PCIE 3 mode you get 3000-3500MB/s depending on the M.2 brand and model.
PCIE 4 gives you more than 6000MB/s.
PCIE 5 doubles that again, but I think the M.2s for that are not available yet and afaik the Z590 doesn't support it.

It's definitely worth it if your M.2 supports any PCIE mode and your mobo is properly configured.
Use CrystalDiskMark to test speed before you make any change and after to verify you get the expected results. 

In your case I would highly recommend buying a 1TB WD SN850 (Amazon $150) or SN770 (little slower but $50 cheaper) and configure the mobo for M.2 PCIE 4 support. You won't regret it.

[Rogen]

3 hours ago, skip d said:

I'm currently running P3d on an M.2 with 250GB....and wondering if I should move it to a PCIE Adapter

If your existing M2 is of the NVMe variety and is plugged into an M2 port as PCIE mode, it's about as fast as it's going to get.

Maybe add another fast M2 NVMe like this one, and configure as per the advice of @Matthias1231

Personally I have data spread across a raid array of SSD, NVMe and ram disk. P3D takes about 9 minutes to load around 1139 GB of data.

I always find (if you can afford it) you can never have enough speed or harddrive space 🙂

Cheers

 

[skip d]

Thanks for all the advice !!!

So what would be be a better choice using the WD Black 500gb NVME with the PCIE adapter to run my Scenery(Orbyx;Evndr)

or my P3Dv5.3 ??

Thanks

[Luke]

20 hours ago, Matthias1231 said:

It's definitely worth it if your M.2 supports any PCIE mode and your mobo is properly configured.

If you're running benchmarks, sure. I guarantee you won't notice the different in P3D.

Cheers!

[Bob Scott]

A year or two ago I did a direct head-to-head comparison with my large P3D configuration (v5.1 with hundreds of AI aircraft and over 300 add-on sceneries) on a SATA III SSD (Samsung 860 Pro) and a direct clone of that same config on an NVME/m.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus.  Load time at start-up was around 20% quicker on the NVME drive despite the much (>10x) faster NVME interface, and there was absolutely no discernible difference in frame rate or smoothness.  In P3D, frame rate is only affected by storage bandwidth when using very large photoscenery tiles, and even then, there's a point of diminishing returns when you get up to SSD speeds.

I do like and use NVME M.2 drives myself, but mostly for their streamlined mechanical simplicity--e.g. small size, no cables, mounted securely under plates right on the mobo etc.  I don't see where putting an SSD onto a PCIE daughterboard would provide any meaningful improvement.

[Biggles2010]

16 minutes ago, Luke said:

If you're running benchmarks, sure. I guarantee you won't notice the different in P3D.

I agree the gains are usually less than people expect, but there is a useful reduction in initial loading times and it can help in heavy scenery areas to reduce loading delays.

 

On 10/27/2022 at 8:13 PM, skip d said:

I'm currently running P3d on an M.2 with 250GB....and wondering if I should move it to a PCIE Adapter

It sounds like you have a SATA M2 drive.  SATA M2 drives are an older and slower standard, so what you are proposing will not make it faster.. Another consideration is that smaller M2 drives are usually significantly slower than the larger ones (1TB and above).  From both points of view I would suggest getting a current nvme PCIE M2 drive of at least 1TB size.  PCIE3 drives are slightly cheaper than PCIE4 but still much faster than what you have.