Update 1.30.12 kills my smooth gameplay withFrame Generation

[pmplayer 9,469]

On 2/1/2023 at 12:09 AM, ryanbatc said:

No problems here....torture test... inibuilds A310 facing the city of Chicago at FSDreamTeam's KORD with tons of FSLTL ai traffic

60ish fps 12700K / 4080 / 32GB ram

torture by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

Sorry, i do not see any "tons of FSLTL ai traffic" here..😄

cheers 😉

Edited April 20, 2023 by pmplayer

[ryanbatc 12,857]

10 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

Sorry, i do not see any "tons of FSLTL ai traffic" here..😄

cheers 😉

They were at the gate.  I had just loaded up.

[TravelRunner404 596]

18 minutes ago, ozguror said:

I have just bought 4070 gpu and I faced this problem. Vsync on and frame capped 60 in NCP with FG. My monitor doesn't have GSYNC.

It’s my understanding that frame generation does not work well without a Gsync monitor. I personally couldn’t get good results, but I haven’t tried since December. Lots of tearing, artifacts and stutters.  Once I got it set up on my widescreen Gsync monitor I was impressed. Again, don’t know if some work arounds since then have been found. 

[odourboy 1,289]

2 hours ago, TravelRunner404 said:

It’s my understanding that frame generation does not work well without a Gsync monitor. I personally couldn’t get good results, but I haven’t tried since December. Lots of tearing, artifacts and stutters.  Once I got it set up on my widescreen Gsync monitor I was impressed. Again, don’t know if some work arounds since then have been found. 

With my older non gsync monitor, in the MSFS Nvidia profile, I lock frames at 60 and force on Vsync and it's perfect. Plus my hardware is running cool and easy.

[Hamish100 89]

Hi All

New to this thread... I have just upgraded to new 7900X3D + GTX 4080 , I am running the first generation LG Utrawide 3440 x 1440 which has FreeSync but no Gysnc... Is there any hope for the possibilty of using frame generation as like Travel Runner above I can get 60 FPS as its a 60Hz Monitor but it has terrible tearing so I have had to revert back to DX11 and Half monitor refresh rate to 30 FPS which is good but I probably would not have bought the 4 series if I had known you need a Gysnc Monitor as the frame generation is why I went for it. I should have done better research before buying.

If anyone has any tips please let me know

 

Vsync on in the Nvidia Control Panel does not seem to work.

 

 

Many Thanks

 

Hamish

Edited April 20, 2023 by Hamish100
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[ThomseN_inc 1,128]

22 minutes ago, Hamish100 said:

Hi All

New to this thread... I have just upgraded to new 7900X3D + GTX 4080 , I am running the first generation LG Utrawide 3440 x 1440 which has FreeSync but no Gysnc... Is there any hope for the possibilty of using frame generation as like Travel Runner above I can get 60 FPS as its a 60Hz Monitor but it has terrible tearing so I have had to revert back to DX11 and Half monitor refresh rate to 30 FPS which is good but I probably would not have bought the 4 series if I had known you need a Gysnc Monitor as the frame generation is why I went for it. I should have done better research before buying.

If anyone has any tips please let me know

 

Vsync on in the Nvidia Control Panel does not seem to work.

 

 

Many Thanks

 

Hamish

You don't need a GSYNC monitor. I am having the smoothest sim ever without one. Monitor set to 60Hz, NVCP: Vsync ON, ingame VSYNC: OFF.

[Hamish100 89]

Thats interesting as I have tried that but cant get it to behave without tearing... My monitor is set to 6o HZ and I have 100 Refresh rate in Sim.

 

So you are running DX12 FrameGeneration, Vysync off in MSFS and then with Nvidia Control Panel with Vsync On?

 

Are you also using TAA?

 

Many Thanks

H.

Edited April 20, 2023 by Hamish100

[filou 2,744]

No problems here:

5800X3D / RTX4090

ULTRA / 4K / TERRAIN LEVEL OF DETAIL 300 /  TAA / NVIDIA FG ON /  FSLTL IFR MAXIMUM 200 / LIVE WEATHER

[alox 6]

Hi.
I am in the same situation when i active Frame Generation my FPS drops to 30 or less and when i look around everything is stutter but when is use DLSS with Directx 11 everythin is smooth at 60 FPS. I will share a video later.

 

Hardware:

11900K at 5.3 Ghz.

RTX 4070 TI

1080P upscaled to 4K 60 Hz.

SSD.

Regards.

Edited April 20, 2023 by alox

[alox 6]

DLSS+DX11:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6efeh2oae1ib1wt/DLSS%2BD11.mp4?dl=0

DLSS+FG+DX12:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6pejsp3ub9z34m/DLSS%2BFG%2BD12.mp4?dl=0

I tried the following but the result is the same with DLSS+FG+DX12 :

Update bios.

Update nvidia drivers.

 I made a clean installation of nvidia drivers.

Update Windows 10 to Windows 11.

Restart to default settings on MSFS 2020 and Nvidia control panel.

Delete Rolling Cache.

I think I just need to try on a native 4K monitor and another game with DLSS+FG+DX12.

 Any other suggestion is welcome.

Regards.

 

 

[kiwikat 506]

3 hours ago, alox said:

I am in the same situation when i active Frame Generation my FPS drops to 30 or less and when i look around everything is stutter but when is use DLSS with Directx 11 everythin is smooth at 60 FPS. I will share a video later.

That looks really weird, like it's being limited by vsync or something.

Why are you upscaling to 4K and running DLSS? Why not run TAA at your native resolution? Lots of folks are using DX12 + TAA + FG (+ GSYNC if you have it).

[alox 6]

47 minutes ago, kiwikat said:

That looks really weird, like it's being limited by vsync or something.

Why are you upscaling to 4K and running DLSS? Why not run TAA at your native resolution? Lots of folks are using DX12 + TAA + FG (+ GSYNC if you have it).

Hi

Because for some reason if i run msfs 2020 with DLSS or TAA at 1080P my performance is not smooth. The best set up that i found regarding quality and performance was with DLSS+DX11.

Regards.

[alox 6]

56 minutes ago, kiwikat said:

That looks really weird, like it's being limited by vsync or something.

Why are you upscaling to 4K and running DLSS? Why not run TAA at your native resolution? Lots of folks are using DX12 + TAA + FG (+ GSYNC if you have it).

Hi

Because for some reason if i run msfs 2020 with DLSS or TAA at 1080P my performance is not smooth. (maybe at 1080p the 4070 TI is too strong for my 11900K). The best set up that i found regarding quality and performance was with DLSS+DX11 upscaled to 4K.

Regards.

Edited April 21, 2023 by alox

[kiwikat 506]

1 minute ago, alox said:

Because for some reason if i run msfs 2020 with DLSS or TAA at 1080P my performance is not smooth. The best set up that i found regarding quality and performance was with DLSS+DX11.

Ugh... gotta love how this thing works completely different from person to person. Even on the same exact hardware sometimes. 💩

[alox 6]

2 minutes ago, kiwikat said:

Ugh... gotta love how this thing works completely different from person to person. Even on the same exact hardware sometimes. 💩

you're right.😥

 

Regards.