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KDEN by FlightBeam? And KPDX by FB?

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I'm back flying from KDEN more often again and I see the heinous terrain elevation defects persist in the Premium Deluxe version of KDEN.  I zendesked it months ago to no avail except it was marked as, "Resolved" or something like that. So I again visited the Marketplace and see FB's listing at $19.99, gulp, it better be really good.  So I found this review, which paints a very sad picture of KDEN by FB:  MSFS Add-On Review - Flightbeam Denver International - YouTube

I've always liked what MS/A did w/ KDEN until the elevation defects appeared and it's really unfortunate because it's very decent otherwise.  Your thoughts again please...

Also, I just took off from FB's KPDX which I bought very early on.  Taxiing to departure runway was nice and smooth w/ nary a stutter.  As soon as I took off just major hiccoughs and stutters abound--and this, once again, in the context of huge main thread headroom, GPU and VRAM headroom.  At wits end as I thought I had solved post SU12 performance weirdness, and closed down the flight, uninstalled KPDX FB and all is well now after TO.  I've flown out of FB KPDX many times w/o this so is it possible it needs an update to deal w/ recent changes in the sim?  Anyone find the same issue now at FB's KPDX?

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

Performance with these FB airports is stellar for me with no performance degradation in the cockpit. Very smooth. Outside views sometimes bring the fps down a bit but always acceptable. Departed KPDX the other day on the Lavaa6 departure  (for Southwest in APL 😉)  and it was glorious at 7am. One of my favorites. Been really enjoying it. Arriving back there on my next flight from KSJC today. KDEN is the same, excellent performance and butter smooth. 

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Dang I don't know what to make of this.  I have a BAD gremlin that rears it head in ways that make it impossible to troubleshoot--very random, and very severe when it hits.  Thanks for the testimony.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

Also, that KDEN review is two years old. It received a pretty amazing update earlier this year.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Dang I don't know what to make of this.  I have a BAD gremlin that rears it head in ways that make it impossible to troubleshoot--very random, and very severe when it hits.  Thanks for the testimony.

Always in the same aircraft?

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i7-6700k Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5 32GB DDR4 2666 EVGA FTW ULTRA RTX3080 12GB

Flightbeam is a very solid airport developer. Their stuff is all day-one buy for me. I'm not sure why that reviewer had such a bad experience, because I got KDEN the day it was released and never had problems worthy of a bad review.  And it's only gotten better since that update BrammyH mentioned.

 

Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light

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23 minutes ago, somiller said:

Always in the same aircraft?

Nope, it's in all 3 planes I fly regularly in.  In late Nov 22 I reinstalled Win 10 and MSFS, did a lot of troubleshooting work which yielded Nirvana for me for around 3 months every single flight absolute perfection gate to gate, then SU12 came and deterioration happened bigtime.   Did a 2nd round of troubleshooting and came up with 4 possible causes of this, left all 4 changes in place, back to Nirvana for a few weeks now, then this starts again characterized by LOTS of GPU/main thread/VRAM headroom, yet anywhere from bad to show-stopping (literally!) stuttering, esp upon landing.  Do all the usual tricks including rebuilding the rolling cache and DX shader cache, and just now installing the latest NV driver--despite the fact the prior recent one was totally fine a week ago.  Thanks

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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2 minutes ago, eslader said:

Flightbeam is a very solid airport developer. Their stuff is all day-one buy for me. I'm not sure why that reviewer had such a bad experience, because I got KDEN the day it was released and never had problems worthy of a bad review.  And it's only gotten better since that update BrammyH mentioned.

 

I might do it then I just hate to pay $20 when the Asobo Premium was as good as it was...until the elevation defects appeared some time ago.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

I don't blame you.  But the Flightbeam one has been better than MSFS since before the elevation defects, so for me anyway, it was worth it anyway.

 

Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light

2 hours ago, Noel said:

I might do it then I just hate to pay $20 when the Asobo Premium was as good as it was...until the elevation defects appeared some time ago.

I only buy this stuff when it’s on sale. I think I got these two for $14/12. There might be a Memorial Day sale next week? I try to pick up at least one of these gems during the sales, Last three being KDEN, EKCH, and KPDX. 

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It appears KDEN has improved enough to go for it but yes, on sale only for me too!

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

i have made several flights from kden to kphx.  I bought KDEN a couple of weeks  ago including the update.  KDEN ran great on my system the stutters that I did have was at KPHX, when I was taxing to the terminal

Specs 10700k oc 4.8ghz 10 vram 3080 TLOD 150 VSYNC on 

10700kf, 3080 nividia, 32gbs 3400mhz, 1,000 watts power, M.2 DVMe !tb, boot, 1tb 7200rpm, storage, windows 10 home

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