5 minutes ago, VeryBumpy said:

Do GSX support vehicles still clip through planes, airport ground objects, vehicles  and the like?

Yes they do. It's not a big deal (in my opinion) and there's nothing they can do to remedy that (as far as I'm aware).

Last year I paid full price for GSX, and I don't regret it. I understand it's currently on sale. For boarding, I set boarding density to Insane, precisely for not extending preflight needlessly.

1 hour ago, VeryBumpy said:

Do GSX support vehicles still clip through planes, airport ground objects, vehicles  and the like?

They rarely do, especially if a well-made airport profile is used, so the profile creator has placed the vehicles in custom starting positions which are tailored for the airport. The reason why we don't even try automatically drive around other objects are plenty:

- Some objects like static ground details are simply NOT detectable: they are part of the airport 3d structures, so it's not really feasible to open the complete scenery files, completely decode them, trying to recognize where these objects are, especially considering this wouldn't work with Marketplace airports, which is why since SU12, GSX doesn't even open the airport file anyomore.

- Those that can be recognized, might be moving, meaning GSX would have to track their position in real time, adding lots of strain to Simconnect.

- Even assuming we could track the position of the vehicle in real time without affecting performances, reacting to them will introduce a whole new class of issues, far worse than the inconsequential "clipping" through objects, like services stopped/frozen because multiple vehicles might be stuck yielding to each other, which is very possible on an apron limited space, and that even assuming an otherwise flawless AI + default Ground vehicles movement, on a flawlessly designed airport with proper vehicle paths allowing a proper flow, which is not the reality of either the sim or the vast majority of sceneries out there.

So no, in the grand scheme of things, accepting some clipping in some cases, is the best solution considering the alternatives.

No

19 hours ago, virtuali said:

They rarely do, especially if a well-made airport profile is used, so the profile creator has placed the vehicles in custom starting positions which are tailored for the airport. The reason why we don't even try automatically drive around other objects are plenty:

- Some objects like static ground details are simply NOT detectable: they are part of the airport 3d structures, so it's not really feasible to open the complete scenery files, completely decode them, trying to recognize where these objects are, especially considering this wouldn't work with Marketplace airports, which is why since SU12, GSX doesn't even open the airport file anyomore.

- Those that can be recognized, might be moving, meaning GSX would have to track their position in real time, adding lots of strain to Simconnect.

- Even assuming we could track the position of the vehicle in real time without affecting performances, reacting to them will introduce a whole new class of issues, far worse than the inconsequential "clipping" through objects, like services stopped/frozen because multiple vehicles might be stuck yielding to each other, which is very possible on an apron limited space, and that even assuming an otherwise flawless AI + default Ground vehicles movement, on a flawlessly designed airport with proper vehicle paths allowing a proper flow, which is not the reality of either the sim or the vast majority of sceneries out there.

So no, in the grand scheme of things, accepting some clipping in some cases, is the best solution considering the alternatives.

Very thorough and reasonable explanation. I think most people would accept the occasional clipping when they can keep their FPS in return.

20 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

I understand it's currently on sale.

It's not on sale on their website. Where do I need to look?

 

edit: I found it. False alarm.

Edited November 27, 20232 yr by El Diablito

Hi, I'm considering buying GSX pro for msfs2020, but I have heard that it can be quite bugged at the moment, is the add on still good in 2024? And how badly does it affect performance?.

Am I right that GSX comes with airport profiles for all the standard airports, or do I need to get them off flightsim.to?

 

Thank you.

Yeah it’s quite often a major source of issues. Just search the forums and you’ll see how many people have problems. 
 

Apparently some people are lucky and it works fine, but there are enough bad reviews and bug issues reported that you should be aware that it may cause problems if you buy it. 
 

that said, and to be fair to the developer, there is literally nothing else that does what GSX does. So if you want the features it provides, it’s the only game in town. You can give it a go and see if you get lucky. 
 

I had bought it but the buggy nature of it caused me to get a refund. .. which I did, but I had to ti wait days in radio silence till I finally gave up and emailed the devs saying I would do a charge back. Then I got a refund. 
 

So caveat emptor. 

Sorry, i missed the part where you asked about 2024. As far as I know, there’s no news on that yet. The developer will likely talk about that soon, as the dev alpha is ongoing. 

Count me lucky then.

Yes, the people models and vehicles don't move exactly how they should in real life, and the people models don't always line up perfectly during boarding/deboarding with jetways.

Instead, pushbacks work every time and go where I want them. Marshallers/Nool VGDS gets me on stand, and I get a little bit extra immersion from using the add-on.

Most top-end scenery devs will provide a GSX profile and a python file to be placed in the GSX folder. Flightsim.to has a repository of profiles for a lot of others.

GSX is one of those products I take for granted because (for me) it just works.

It’s good when it’s working, really good experience… then an update comes to either GSX or an aircraft and certain auto features stop working or recognising certain functions, so it can become frustrating. Example the Fenix a320 was working perfectly and it was all automated, now there’s issues with doors opening automatically and random seated passengers not showing (even with low simobject counts).

However, overall the positive aspects and features of the application far outweigh the negative. 

1 hour ago, rick celik said:

It’s good when it’s working, really good experience… then an update comes to either GSX or an aircraft and certain auto features stop working or recognising certain functions, so it can become frustrating. Example the Fenix a320 was working perfectly and it was all automated, now there’s issues with doors opening automatically and random seated passengers not showing (even with low simobject counts).

However, overall the positive aspects and features of the application far outweigh the negative. 

I all honesty, GSX was a game changer app for many years.  It was one of the must haves for me for sure.  Loved it.  I use it mainly for pushbacks and little else.   I don't have the patience for all of the animated sequences any longer, especially when they are graphically glitchy - user error or otherwise.

I am much more interested in what 'Say Intentions' AI  will be doing with their AI offering of ground services, which I think will blow everything else out of the water.   I think they're laying the ground for AI integrated apps which is very exciting.

 

Edited November 2, 20241 yr by ErichB

I could not fly airliners without GSX anymore, especially PMDG and FENIX aircrafts, very well fitted with the use of GSX right now.

Yes, there are issues sometimes, but not necessarily relied to GSX itself, but to other add-ons' updates or new sceneries loaded.

Edited November 2, 20241 yr by danhenri

On 11/2/2024 at 8:47 AM, ErichB said:

I am much more interested in what 'Say Intentions' AI  will be doing with their AI offering of ground services, which I think will blow everything else out of the water.   I think they're laying the ground for AI integrated apps which is very exciting.

 

Yes, I have an annual subscription with 'Say Intentions' and they have some great things planned. They have their own built-in pushback and engine start which I like very much using.

I too was thinking of GSX but to be honest, I think it's had its day personally speaking.

GSX is an incredibly powerful addon with a huge amount of functionality and versatility... but with the complexity comes a learning curve and it also requires effort on the user's part to get the most out of it (such as finding and installing profiles for airports and aircraft.)

personally i find myself not using it much, simply because all i really use 90% of the time is pushback and i'd rather save system resources for other aspects of the sim.

Edited February 4, 20251 yr by molleh