OK, I've been around for quite a while, so I feel a little embarrassed at having to ask this ... I've kinda let it go over the years and not bothered so much with it, but now I take my simming in the 738 more seriously, I think it's about time I got to the biottom of things. For the life of me I can never get the times in the real world (GMT) to match the time in the FMC of the PMDG 738. So effectively what I do, is match the time in the real world (GMT) to the time in the sim, but even if I set it UTC it never matches what is displayed in the FMC, even after setting the chronometer/clock on the MIP. I did read that there is a bug that creates this anomoly, but not sure. Can anyone expand on this, thanks.

Edited August 3, 20232 yr by Rockliffe

3 hours ago, Rockliffe said:

it never matches what is displayed in the FMC

ok  where  abouts  in  the  fmc  is  the  time  your  referring  to?   since  cant  see  the  time  in the  fmc

2 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

ok  where  abouts  in  the  fmc  is  the  time  your  referring  to?   since  cant  see  the  time  in the  fmc

When you're in the legs section and you click on data (i think it's data) it gives ETA for waypoint arrivals. They are always incorrect.

Edited August 3, 20232 yr by Rockliffe

4 minutes ago, Rockliffe said:

When you're in the legs section and you click on data (i think it's data) it gives ETA for waypoint arrivals. They are always incorrect.

thats eta  estimate time  on  arrival does  the  clock  say the  right  time in utc   in  the  aircraft to  your  pc  time,  since  iam  sitting  in  the  aircraft now at my home  town  and  its  correct

Edited August 3, 20232 yr by pete_auau

1 minute ago, pete_auau said:

thats eta  estimate time  on  arrival

ah, so it's arrival time from each waypoint to the destination??

1 minute ago, Rockliffe said:

ah, so it's arrival time from each waypoint to the destination??

yes   and it  will  depend  on the  winds  as  well

Just now, pete_auau said:

yes   and it  will  depend  on the  winds  as  well

Oh dear, now I feel silly  thanks for the clarification Pete, appreciated.

46 minutes ago, Rockliffe said:

Oh dear, now I feel silly  thanks for the clarification Pete, appreciated.

Well, it's not as unusual as you might think. I am pretty sure we all go thru life just puttering along and occasionally we actually stop and look at the roses, and have to say to ourselves "Wait just a minute? How does this work??

If the problem is PC time being off then this will solve that. Windows never set my PC time correctly. But this does, down to 1/100 of a second.

Dimension4 (freeware).

I have the boxes ticked for Dimension4 to set the PC clock every time the PC computer is booted up. Now if I go to any online Time webpage, that clock on the website display matches my PC time shown in the windows taskbar. Before, it always off by a whole lot of seconds. Now, it never is off by even 1 second.

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/free-time-synchronization-software-windows

http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/

 

I think there’s some confusion here.

If you’re using the FMC, hit LEGS and then RTE DATA, the times next to the waypoints should display the arrival time to that waypoint in UTC. These times have no bearing on your arrival airport.

If you were flying MAN/LHR for example and you took off at 13:00 UTC, the arrival time next to BNN would be around 13:25, and that’s the time you should be shown. Are you saying your times are completely incorrect? FWIW, I’ve never had that issue with the PMDG and you might be best off asking on their forums or submitting a support ticket, but I just want to clarify what your issue actually is as the above doesn’t read right to me. 

1 hour ago, mikethe6th said:

I think there’s some confusion here.

If you’re using the FMC, hit LEGS and then RTE DATA, the times next to the waypoints should display the arrival time to that waypoint in UTC. These times have no bearing on your arrival airport.

Well yes, that was my understadning of things, sure, the times are completely different to the sim time or the time set on the chronometer. Sometimes I have seen a discrepency of a couple of hours! I think what I'll do is go on a flight soon and report back

Edited August 3, 20232 yr by Rockliffe

Yup, as I thought. I'm not imagining things. I've just set up a flight, set the time in MSFS on the weather page to current GMT real world time ie. 22.35, set the appropriate take off time in Simbrief flight plan to 22.50 for the sake of a test, then jumped into the 738, set the chronometer/clock on the MIP to the same as the MSFS time, loaded the flight plan and went to route data  to see a two hour difference for the ETA arrival at the waypoints! Go figure!  I then went to the MSFS weather page and changed the time to UTC, which was a difference of one hour, jumped back into the 738, reset the clock to the same and noted the route data had changed to a four hour difference!!! I'm sure there is an explanation to this, but for the life of me I have no idea what it is. I'm sure it's likely to be finger trouble at my end, but I really would like to get it sorted. 

A peculiar issue and one of I’ve not heard of. Just to cover all bases, when you say you’re setting real world time, are you dragging the sliders to match it or are using the real world time toggle? I always use the toggle and let the sim sort it. Unfortunately, my suggestion(s) end there. 

1 hour ago, Rockliffe said:

Yup, as I thought. I'm not imagining things. I've just set up a flight, set the time in MSFS on the weather page to current GMT real world time ie. 22.35, set the appropriate take off time in Simbrief flight plan to 22.50 for the sake of a test, then jumped into the 738, set the chronometer/clock on the MIP to the same as the MSFS time, loaded the flight plan and went to route data  to see a two hour difference for the ETA arrival at the waypoints! Go figure!  I then went to the MSFS weather page and changed the time to UTC, which was a difference of one hour, jumped back into the 738, reset the clock to the same and noted the route data had changed to a four hour difference!!! I'm sure there is an explanation to this, but for the life of me I have no idea what it is. I'm sure it's likely to be finger trouble at my end, but I really would like to get it sorted. 

strange  issue   you have   so  what happens  when  you load  your  aircraft  at  your  home  town,  what  time  is  shown  on the  aircraft clock  to  your  pc  time   you  can  change  the  time  from  utc  to normal  time  the  time  should  match  your  pc  time  if  not  than  that will be  the issue

10 hours ago, mikethe6th said:

A peculiar issue and one of I’ve not heard of. Just to cover all bases, when you say you’re setting real world time, are you dragging the sliders to match it or are using the real world time toggle? I always use the toggle and let the sim sort it. Unfortunately, my suggestion(s) end there. 

Hmm, I use the slider.... I'll check that one thanks.