August 17, 20232 yr Hi all - I am just after a bit of advice regarding nose wheel steering in MSFS 2020 with the PMDG 737. I have recently converted over from P3D V5. I am finding it very difficult to make right turns with the tiller. I have it mapped to my Thrustmaster Airbus Side Stick on the twist axis. I am using the Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke for elevator and aileron control and Thrustmaster Rudder Pedals for Rudder and Brakes. I’ve read online that Nose Wheel steering in MSFS isn’t the best. Does anyone have any further info? I’m not sure where to look. I also tested in the iniBuilds A310 and that is the same as the PMDG 737 with regards to ground steering. However, the Fenix A320 works really well. (No yoke connected for the Fenix). Many Thanks, Jonathan. - Jonathan Daley
August 17, 20232 yr I find the PMDG is a little less responsive and turns take a larger radius than I would feel it expects. Online youtubers seem to think it's fine. The Fenix "sticks" a lot of the time and I stay in the turns way longer and "over turn" a lot for some reason, it's very annoying Regards, Max (YSSY) i7-12700K | Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB 3600MHz DDR4 | Gigabyte RTX4090 24Gb | Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4 | Corsair HX1200 PSU
August 17, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, Jonathan93102 said: I’ve read online that Nose Wheel steering in MSFS isn’t the best. I don't see how it could be improved, but I use a controller with fabulous sensitivity--an old Cessna Trim Wheel and it's super easy to control ground steering with it with any plane. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
August 17, 20232 yr I'd check the calibration to see if you're getting full deflection from the stick. On the Leo Bodnar website, there's a utility called DIView that will show you the raw axis values the stick is sending to the PC. I have three of the TCA Airbus sidesticks, and I've done the same minor mod on all of them to re-route the wiring to the Z-axis (twist) potentiometer--the wiring can slide into a position where it interferes with free movement of the pot, or insufficient slack in the wiring inside the handle can tug on the pot, having the same effect. Pulling some slack up through the shaft (there's plenty) and re-routing the wires to run around the forward side of the screw post works wonders. If you Google T16000M yaw axis fix or similar you should see some YT videos on how to make that mod (the T16000M is largely the same as the TCA). It's a simple screwdriver-only process. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 18, 20232 yr Author Hi all, Thanks for the replies and advice. It’s much appreciated, I increased the Dead Zone a little and have seen improvements on the PMDG that is. I think I’ve broken the iniBuilds A310 Tiller as I can’t get it to work now at all. I have to use the Rudder Pedals then switch Nose Wheel Steering to OFF in the EFB when on the runway. Thanks, Jonathan - Jonathan Daley
August 18, 20232 yr On 8/17/2023 at 1:20 PM, flyhalf said: The Fenix "sticks" a lot of the time and I stay in the turns way longer and "over turn" a lot for some reason, it's very annoying I think the Fenix tiller is really good. It goes where you want it to go. But if you do a big deflection, you have to to take into account that it's going to take a bit of time for the nose wheel to move by that much.
August 20, 20232 yr Author Thanks again for all the replies. I just have one small query - I am using FSUIPC7 in MSFS. Should I not have anything binded in the MSFS Control Panel if I’m using FSUIPC? I.e. the axis’s? Also I could not see any info regarding sensitivity / dead zones in any of the aircraft manuals. Does anyone have any recommendations? Many thanks, Jonathan - Jonathan Daley
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