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For your case I would recommend the Fractal Design Torrent or Torrent compact.  They're both high airflow cases and the 2 180mm fans up front could run a little slower to make your build quieter especially if you decide to air cool.  Also the power supply installs at the top so that heat source is dissipated more easily without adding heat to either the GPU or CPU. Torrent_Black_RGB_TGL_1-Left-Front.jpg


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On 8/27/2023 at 10:13 PM, coopville said:

Thanks for the replies.

Swe_Richard: What made you go with the 7950x3d vs the 7800x3d or 7900x3d? Was there some future proofing for MSFS 2024 or other use issues? Mine will only really be used for Flight Sim. Other's have mentioned that the 7950x3d is better when using other programs with the sim like AI Traffic and Flight Planning software or other addons. Looks like about $270 price difference between 7800 to the 7950. 

Well, in addition to great sim performance I was after good multi threaded dito. The 7950x3d absolutely stomps the 7800x3d in this regard. No contest. So for me, the choice was easy.

EDIT: And, no. The 7950x3d does not turn into a 7800x3d when gaming. The non-cache cores are not disabled at all. I use them frequently while simming. 

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On 8/30/2023 at 10:45 AM, Swe_Richard said:

 

EDIT: And, no. The 7950x3d does not turn into a 7800x3d when gaming. The non-cache cores are not disabled at all. I use them frequently while simming. 

Aren’t they parked/disable by default when a game is running? What are you doing to enable them, and ensure MSFS is not running on the other non-cache chiplet?

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On 8/28/2023 at 9:27 AM, klamal said:

Here is the system that I have currently in my shopping cart.  Can anyone offer any experiences, thoughts, recommendations please?

CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Raphael AM5 4.2GHz 8-Core Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included
$379.99

Motherboard
Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard
$219.99

RAM
G.Skill - Trident Z5 RGB 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5-6400 PC5-51200 CL32 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit F5-6400J3239G32GX2-TZ5RK - Black
$229.99
 
Case
Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case - Black
$149.99

Power Supply
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1350 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply
$229.99

Video Card
PNY - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Verto Epic-X RGB Overclocked Triple Fan 24GB GDDR6X PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card
$1,629.99
 
M.2 / NVMe SSD
Samsung - 990 PRO 2TB Samsung V NAND 3-bit MLC PCIe Gen 4 x4 NVMe M.2 Internal SSD - With Heatsink
$149.99

CPU Cooling
Heatsink
Corsair - iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT 360mm All in One Liquid CPU Cooling Kit
$219.99
 
Operating System
Microsoft - Windows 11 Home 64-Bit FPP USB - English
$139.99

 

Total: $3,349.91

That all sounds good, but see my post (#2). I think 64GB of RAM is going to largely go unused. I never see MSFS go beyond high-teens.  I opted for 32GB with faster timings… 6000 is the sweet spot on these platforms, but you can probably run this kit at 6000 with tighter timings. 

I also think a three fan AIO is overkill. I run an Arctic Freezer II 280 and temps are never an issue. But if you have the case for it, why not.

I really don’t like tower cases as you’re typically forced to put your AIO rad on the top panel, which means you’re pushing air down into the case… I prefer my cases to work like a chimney… pulling cold air in from the sides and exhausting out the top. Hot air naturally wants to rise, and i try not to fight that. If you can mount your AIO on the front of a tower and exhaust out the top, great. 

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On 8/29/2023 at 1:48 PM, jalbino59 said:

For your case I would recommend the Fractal Design Torrent or Torrent compact.  They're both high airflow cases and the 2 180mm fans up front could run a little slower to make your build quieter especially if you decide to air cool.  Also the power supply installs at the top so that heat source is dissipated more easily without adding heat to either the GPU or CPU. Torrent_Black_RGB_TGL_1-Left-Front.jpg

Personally, I don’t like this kind of design… no ventilation out the top… you’re going to have  two large fans pulling air in the front and two or three fans pulling air in from the bottom (GPU) and just one exhaust fan on the back?! It’s not ideal at all. You’re going to have to leave the side panel off for sure. 

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7 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

Aren’t they parked/disable by default when a game is running? What are you doing to enable them, and ensure MSFS is not running on the other non-cache chiplet?

If I just run MSFS and nothing else then CCD0 seems to more or less be the only chiplet in use (according to HWINFO CCD1 gets some 0-5% usage now or then. Especially if I start a web browser and type this). However if I fire up other apps (such as Navigraph, OnAir/Neofly or a web-browser) CCD1 will awaken and be used. I could also set affinity for certain apps for CCD1 and CCD1 will be used despite me using MSFS. Sure, there probably will be some spill-over at times when MSFS processes populate even CCD1. Can't say I've noticed it though. Smooth and fluid and atm enjoying an average CPU temp of 63 deg C after two hours in the PMDG 737. 

So, to answer your question. Yes, they tend to be parked. But in no way, shape or form are they disabled (which to my non-native English means 'completely unavailable'. Which they of course are not). 

 

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7950x3d   |   32Gb 6000mHz RAM   |   8Tb NVme   |   RTX 4090    |    MSFS    |    P3D    |      XP12  

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On 9/3/2023 at 8:06 AM, Virtual-Chris said:

I really don’t like tower cases as you’re typically forced to put your AIO rad on the top panel, which means you’re pushing air down into the case…

I don't think that is the case😀. You can turn around the rad and have it blow up, outside of the case. Preferably with the front fans sucking in just a bit more air than is going out yo keep positive pressure inside the case.

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