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Xtreme Prototype Lear25 v4 out - Anyone tried yet?

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25 minutes ago, level7 said:

Huh they added an autothrottle to the plane even though it doesn't have one? And doesn't seem to be an option to disable that's a bit of a turnoff...

Where have you picked that up from? I have an earlier version of the Lear 25 and it has no autothrottle. What it does have is a SPD and Mach hold buttons on the autopilot.

You manually control throttle until cruise and then engage one of those modes. It brings more hands-on action and I really enjoy that aspect.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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8 hours ago, level7 said:

any newer comments on this bird? looks very interesting and nice to have a P3D V5+ native plane

Great aircraft(s), but a strong computer is necessary.

12 minutes ago, newtie said:

Great aircraft(s), but a strong computer is necessary.

Uh oh might be a problem

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Where have you picked that up from? I have an earlier version of the Lear 25 and it has no autothrottle. What it does have is a SPD and Mach hold buttons on the autopilot.

You manually control throttle until cruise and then engage one of those modes. It brings more hands-on action and I really enjoy that aspect.

The manual for the V4 plane describes a few areas where autothrottle modes come into play. In the documentation it says many of their users prefer having this feature.

https://www.xtremeprototypes.com/xp-manuals-en/XP_GLJ25-28_v4_P3D_MANUAL_En_01.pdf

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51 minutes ago, level7 said:

Uh oh might be a problem

The manual for the V4 plane describes a few areas where autothrottle modes come into play. In the documentation it says many of their users prefer having this feature.

I skimmed through the “What’s New” section and the only reference to autothrottle was the removal of one option which never worked properly anyway.

From that I would deduce no changes compared to earlier versions. It is the same aircraft after all.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

14 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I skimmed through the “What’s New” section and the only reference to autothrottle was the removal of one option which never worked properly anyway.

 

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Note (1): The real Gates Learjet 20 Series aircraft were not equipped with an autothrottle for SPD/MACH Hold, even though we are giving our users the option to use the autothrottle that is readily available in Prepar3D. We know purists may find this feature unrealistic in the case of the Learjet 25/28 (in some of the real aircraft, the autopilot maintained speed by varying the aircraft’s pitch) but the vast majority of our users still appreciate the convenience of an autothrottle, especially when learning to fly the aircraft when there is so much to do

Maybe not so much of a big deal that I initially made it to be 😛 maybe it was in previous versions as well.

@Ray Proudfoot are you flying the V4? How do you find it?

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2 hours ago, level7 said:

 

@Ray Proudfoot are you flying the V4? How do you find it?

No, still using v3. What I did find were the lights - strobe, taxi and landing - had a severe impact on fps. But that was on my old system with a 1080Ti running in 4K.

If I dropped the res to 2560*1440 it was fine. But now, with my new system everything is brilliant in 4K.

It’s a powerful aircraft and can climb at 3000fpm up to FL430. Cruise at Mach 0.82 max. Love it! 😁

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

I'm running the V4 28 on a 32" Dell curved monitor @4k with a 12Gb 3080ti. Right on the edge of Vram if I use hi rez textures, about 7gb usage without. Other than that, it's all I'm flying these days. Xtreme Prototypes has got a winner here. Still consult the 300+ page manual every day on some aspect of this aircraft.

Any word from the developer as to timing for the V6 version?

 

 

On 1/16/2024 at 6:13 AM, level7 said:
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Note (1): The real Gates Learjet 20 Series aircraft were not equipped with an autothrottle for SPD/MACH Hold, even though we are giving our users the option to use the autothrottle that is readily available in Prepar3D. We know purists may find this feature unrealistic in the case of the Learjet 25/28 (in some of the real aircraft, the autopilot maintained speed by varying the aircraft’s pitch) but the vast majority of our users still appreciate the convenience of an autothrottle, especially when learning to fly the aircraft when there is so much to do

Maybe not so much of a big deal that I initially made it to be 😛 maybe it was in previous versions as well.

@Ray Proudfoot are you flying the V4? How do you find it?

That translates to me as "We couldn't get the SPD/Mach mode to work properly - so we cheated and banged in an autothrottle to save figuring it out" .. ..

... v2 & v3 had autothrottle, I think v3 had an attempt at a proper speed mode, that if you tried it promptly tried to murder you.

Not sure if they ever patched it, had a couple of flights in it and went back to the 35 .. ..

 

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Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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1 hour ago, Gazzareth said:

That translates to me as "We couldn't get the SPD/Mach mode to work properly - so we cheated and banged in an autothrottle to save figuring it out" .. ..

I agree, manual throttle with SPD mode would be a strong part of the appeal of flying such a plane 😬

 

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