What are the options (if any) for 'GA only' AI traffic?

[JYW 2,984]

At the moment, my MSFS time is spent solely in GA aircraft of all shapes and sizes.

I've been exploring options for getting some nice GA AI traffic into the sim ..... but not really getting any where.  I notice that, unlike FSX where you could separately dial up GA and Airliner AI traffic, MSFS doesn't seem to have any capability for GA traffic.

When I was flying tubes I used to use FSLTL, but again this seems limited to airliner traffic.

From reading Justflight's product page for FS Traffic, I can't see any reference to specific GA traffic.

So, am I wasting my time and it's just not possible, or is there a product that can satisfy the desire to have GA aircraft landing and taking off around the world's airports?

[GAJ52 54]

I feel the same, GA aircraft is definitely the poor relation within FS2020.

Edited November 19, 2023 by GAJ52

[F737MAX 5,616]

16 minutes ago, JYW said:

is there a product that can satisfy the desire to have GA aircraft landing and taking off around the world's airports?

Best you're going to get at the moment. Good news. IMO, it's rather decent.

https://flightsim.to/file/51413/gamod-offline-version

[JYW 2,984]

5 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

Best you're going to get at the moment. Good news. IMO, it's rather decent.

https://flightsim.to/file/51413/gamod-offline-version

This looks great.  Just what I was looking for.  I did find another similar mod on fs.to but it was "file not available".

Will check this out now.

Thanks!

[MarcG 3,011]

Yep it's a great mod and does the trick nicely, I'd forgotten about it so not updated until earlier today funnily enough. I have to lower the Density quite a bit in populated areas otherwise the FPS takes a bit, but then I raise it for isolated places as it's nice to bump into another GA in the middle of nowhere sometimes.

I also use it with FSLTL to have a nice mix of everything, works great.

[JYW 2,984]

6 hours ago, MarcG said:

Yep it's a great mod and does the trick nicely, I'd forgotten about it so not updated until earlier today funnily enough. I have to lower the Density quite a bit in populated areas otherwise the FPS takes a bit, but then I raise it for isolated places as it's nice to bump into another GA in the middle of nowhere sometimes.

I also use it with FSLTL to have a nice mix of everything, works great.

It's exactly what I was looking for!   And free 😎   AVSIM delivers the goods!

I loaded into your very own EGKA, took off and the skies were full of fellow Sunday evening tourers. I had initially set it at 35%.    Had to turn that down as I literally couldn't get a word in edge ways with ATC there were so many aircraft around 😆    Very impressed!

[Tuskin38 6,532]

AIG will be getting dynamic GA in the future

https://www.alpha-india.net/2023/10/29/alpha-india-group-goes-general-aviation/

[mikegrr 109]

I  found that mod has large negative effect on FPS. I guess it requires a bit of fine tuning. I too miss GA aircraft in regional airports. 

[Mike62 29]

I tried the mod but no matter what I adjusted, my system slowed to a crawl.  I will keep it for now but will keep it disabled for the time being.

 

mike

[MarcG 3,011]

41 minutes ago, Mike62 said:

I tried the mod but no matter what I adjusted, my system slowed to a crawl.  I will keep it for now but will keep it disabled for the time being.

 

mike

You need the percentage really low for built up areas I found, I also noticed the need to go right to zero as adjusting from say 50% to 20% didn't seem to have an effect. So go right down then build it back up.

[blueshark747 1,843]

Here's my combo

https://flightsim.to/file/51413/gamod-offline-version

GA Mod Settings

Like the manual says 30% GA traffic in North America

I use 70% GA Traffic everywhere else.

FSLTL Settings (Older FSLTL Version SIDs, STARs, Separation are now being used in newer version)

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by blueshark747

[vrdubin6 184]

On kind of a related side not, I understand a lot of people not wanting static airliners at airports but I really wish more people added more static aircraft on GA ramps at add-on airports. It really makes the airports look more alive. 

[MarcG 3,011]

2 minutes ago, vrdubin6 said:

On kind of a related side not, I understand a lot of people not wanting static airliners at airports but I really wish more people added more static aircraft on GA ramps at add-on airports. It really makes the airports look more alive. 

This mod does just that with GA, albeit sometimes with a random fighter jet and glider parked side by side 😄

[blueshark747 1,843]

10 minutes ago, vrdubin6 said:

On kind of a related side not, I understand a lot of people not wanting static airliners at airports but I really wish more people added more static aircraft on GA ramps at add-on airports. It really makes the airports look more alive. 

Not sure if you're a fan of Florida flying but definitely grab this Miami Executive addon in the video above I showcased.

I wish this sort of detail was standard at all airports in MSFS.

https://flightsim.to/file/19777/miami-executive-airport-ktmb

 

[vbazillio 2,256]

I'm a GA addict and I just edit the Official\OneStore\fs-base-ai-traffic\layout.json (which manage offline traffic) and remove from it the liner part*. Then I set AI offline to a high % (70%) and it seems to create a lot of GA traffic (Piper, C172...). I let liner traffic to FSLTL. Personal taste.

 

* Remove this section...

  {
      "path": "scenery/world/traffic/trafficAircraft.bgl",
      "size": 40726977,
      "date": 132914828720000000
    },

... from the original Official\OneStore\fs-base-ai-traffic\layout.json:

{
  "content": [
    {
      "path": "scenery/world/traffic/fs10.AircraftTypes.csv",
      "size": 4888,
      "date": 132379022900000000
    },
    {
      "path": "scenery/world/traffic/trafficAircraft.bgl",
      "size": 36754297,
      "date": 133431538870000000
    },
    {
      "path": "scenery/world/traffic/trafficBoats.bgl",
      "size": 1716075,
      "date": 132387798760000000
    }
  ]
}

At the end of the day I'm not completely sure this trick creates small GA trafic everywhere but it seems to create some in some of my favorite small fields.

Edited November 20, 2023 by vbazillio