[Resolved] P3D v5.4 random lockups driving me mad

[Rogen 1,102]

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Cheers

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

@Rogen, 6 instances. I’m not concerned. Some go back over 10 years.

[dave2013 1,151]

2 hours ago, Rogen said:

That's fine but it will be connected to the internet.

Exactly right, Rogen.  My firewall blocks multiple infection attempts like trojans and suspicious connections every week, and I don't visit questionable websites.

If one doesn't have a robust firewall and effective antivirus and anti-malware protecting their machine, then sooner or later the machine will get infected.  It's just a matter of time.

Dave

[Blasb 55]

How high is your special effects slider in P3D? After I turned that to low I have not had any lockups nor crashes due to that. That is the only thing I can think of that might fix this.

 

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

3 hours ago, Blasb said:

How high is your special effects slider in P3D? After I turned that to low I have not had any lockups nor crashes due to that. That is the only thing I can think of that might fix this.

 

It's set to the highest setting. They aren't CTDs as such. The sim just freezes. Sometimes it unfreezes, sometimes it doesn't. I'm running full simconnect and FSUIPC logging to try and establish where the problem lies.

But I appreciate the tip. 👍

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

Just completed EGLL-EGCC with RC4 running. No issues. I'm wary of saying it's fixed but this is three successful flights now. What's changed since my last freeze?

Yesterday I added AS Cloud Art.exe to the exclusion list. Why should that make a difference? Well I never had a lockup when on the ground at either end of a flight. They only occurred when airborne.

I don't know if weather changes when on the ground. If it changes as soon as the aircraft is airborne that would explain one freeze as soon as the wheels left the ground at Schiphol and also when 3 miles out at Heathrow. Plus random freezes during a flight which weren't replicated with a load of a saved flight.

Why should this be a factor when it never was on my old computer? Well I have cloud textures at maximum now with the 4090 whereas with the 1080Ti I had them at more moderate levels. Maybe it's the change of that which has made the difference. I can't think of any other reason for these random freezes. Weather loads are random, freezes were random.

Of course this theory could be blown out of the water on my next flight. But the logic makes sense. What do you think?

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

Another successful flight completed. Does anyone have all cloud sliders set to max in ASCA with EA enabled?

I didn’t with my previous computer as the 1080Ti couldn’t cope. Plus I had EA turned off. I’m reluctant to say it’s fixed because it seems such a strange thing that Active Sky could cause such an issue.

[spilok 1,139]

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Another successful flight completed. Does anyone have all cloud sliders set to max in ASCA with EA enabled?

I didn’t with my previous computer as the 1080Ti couldn’t cope. Plus I had EA turned off. I’m reluctant to say it’s fixed because it seems such a strange thing that Active Sky could cause such an issue.

It's really weird how different systems behave differently, isn't it?  Actually, no it's not.  As I've said before in this thread...no 2 systems LOGICALLY can ever work the same way.  There are hundreds if not thousands of variables in each one of our systems.  

I have the 1080TI in my Jetline computer and I have all display sliders to the right, and Cloud Art sliders to max.  My 1080TI is a phenomenal card for my system, and I love how it functions for my simulations.   EA is always enabled and, now with Defender off for the duration of my flights, I have really NO issues with pauses or crashes in P3d or in MSFS.

Each computer is a distinct (individual) system, and each computer has the fingerprint of its user all over it.

FYI.  Before I retired, I owned a business equipment company for 34 years. I had a staff of many talented I.T. people working for me, and I learned a lot about how small changes in software or in the setup of a computer can affect everything else.  We will all be searching for what makes our simulators work perfectly for us, and this search will be continuous. As we add or delete addons, and make config changes, we will have to solve the issues these changes create. But we will never solve these issues necessarily by doing what someone else does on their individual systems.  It's virtually impossible.

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

Hi Stan. I’m surprised you can extend the sliders fully right with the 1080Ti. It was a great card in its day but the 4000 series are so much more powerful, but if it works for you that’s all that matters.

On my fifth flight I was 13nm out of KDFW landing on 13R and the sim paused for 2-3 seconds. My heart was in my mouth! 😳 But it was soon over and I landed okay.

It does appear to be resolved but the one thing I can’t resolve is why I had a freeze last week when I’d turned Live Protection off.

Fingers crossed things remain stable.

[Blasb 55]

9 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

It's set to the highest setting. They aren't CTDs as such. The sim just freezes. Sometimes it unfreezes, sometimes it doesn't. I'm running full simconnect and FSUIPC logging to try and establish where the problem lies.

But I appreciate the tip. 👍

Yeah but I had exactly the same issue and it was driving me mad and then I turned down my special effects to low and the problem went away immediately (the guys at Orbx recommended it as the freezes apparently has something to do with certain coastlines in the game) 🙂! One test flight you can do is ESSA - EFHK. First try with special effects on highest and then try with the special effects on the lowest and see if you notice any difference!

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

@Blasb, interesting. Just goes to show how complex modern software is and when you combine that with Windows Virus Protection who knows what might happen.

There’s so little daylight around that area I may need to time shift my flight. I’ll try it tomorrow with special effects unchanged on max.

[spilok 1,139]

22 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Hi Stan. I’m surprised you can extend the sliders fully right with the 1080Ti. It was a great card in its day but the 4000 series are so much more powerful, but if it works for you that’s all that matters.

On my fifth flight I was 13nm out of KDFW landing on 13R and the sim paused for 2-3 seconds. My heart was in my mouth! 😳 But it was soon over and I landed okay.

It does appear to be resolved but the one thing I can’t resolve is why I had a freeze last week when I’d turned Live Protection off.

Fingers crossed things remain stable.

Ray,

It's true.  I also remember reading a thread on this forum perhaps years ago that the higher settings ACTUALLY worked better for the original poster of the thread than having the sim at lower settings.  I couldn't understand why that would be the case, but I tried it, and it really seemed to work for me, so I've since then always kept my settings quite high.  Here are my settings in P3dv 5.4:

DISPLAY SCREEN

·       FXAA                                 OFF

·       AA                                      2XMSAA

·       TEXTURE FILTERING       ANISTROPIC 16X

·       TEXTURE RESOLUTION  ULTRA 4096X4096

·       RESOLUTION                    3840x2160x32  (my LG 4k IPS monitor's native resolution)

·       TARGET FRAME RATE    UNLIMITED

·       WIDE VIEW ASPECT       checked

·       MIPMAP VC                      checked

WORLD SCREEN

·       LEVEL OF DETAIL             MAX

·       TESSELLATION                 HIGH

·       MESH RESOLUTION        1m

·       TEXTURE RESOLTUION   7cm

·       USE HIGH RESOLUTION TERRAIN TEXTURES        checked

·       SCENERY COMPLEXITY               EXTREMELY DENSE

·       AUTOGEN SCENERY DRAW DISTANCE    HIGH

·       AUTOGEN VEGETATION DENSITY            NORMAL

·       AUTOGEN BLDG. DENSITY           EXTREMELY DENSE

·       WATER DETAIL                               HIGH

·       SPECIAL EFFECTS                         MEDIUM

·       ENHANCED ATMOSPHERICS       checked

·       VOLUMETRIC CLOUDS   OFF

·       GODRAYS                         checked

·       CLOUD DRAW DISTANCE             60 MILES

·       CLOUD COVERAGE DISTANCE    MAXIMUM

·       CLOUD COVERAGE DENSITY       MAXIMUM

Stan

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

Stan, thanks for that but it’s bad news I’m afraid. 5 miles out from EHAM and it locked for 2-3 minutes before resuming.

Then this afternoon I was 6ft off the landing runway at KPSP when it did it again. I’ve been told where to look for Defender antivirus logs and there’s nothing there for the times of these events. So it’s not related to that.

It might be a hardware issue so a phone call to Chillblast is needed on Monday.

[jcomm 6,011]

7 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Stan, thanks for that but it’s bad news I’m afraid. 5 miles out from EHAM and it locked for 2-3 minutes before resuming.

Then this afternoon I was 6ft off the landing runway at KPSP when it did it again. I’ve been told where to look for Defender antivirus logs and there’s nothing there for the times of these events. So it’s not related to that.

It might be a hardware issue so a phone call to Chillblast is needed on Monday.

Ray,

I assume that happens only with the FSLabs Concorde, right?

Have you been able to reproduce it with other sophisticated aircraft, even one of their Airbuses, or a PMDG ?

[Ray Proudfoot 9,042]

25 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Ray,

I assume that happens only with the FSLabs Concorde, right?

Have you been able to reproduce it with other sophisticated aircraft, even one of their Airbuses, or a PMDG ?

No, all with PMDG 737 NGXu. I’m going to switch to the XP Lear 25 from now on. If the problems are replicated then it looks like a hardware issue.

I’m not flying Concorde until the problem is resolved.