Hi,

I don't fly Airbus very often. but since V2 I have had big problems with Fenix.

 

1. The Thrustmaster joystick is extremely sensitive. Every small movement causes the machine to move too violently.

Of course I adjusted the sensitivity and tried a few things.

According to Fenix HP I should even set the sensitivity to 0... but that is extremely direct..

I tried -55 -60% and the machine still reacts very unnaturally.

Yesterday I made a landing with Honeycomb Alpha and it was much, much better than with Thrustmaster Joystick...

But you want to load an Airbus with a joystick 🙂

But the difference was huge... with Honeycomb I found a lot more feeling.

But it wasn't always like this... Before V2 I had no problems with TCA.

somehow since V2 it reacts very violently.

In addition, I often have problems stabilizing the aircraft after takeoff.

Do you have any tips on how I can optimally adjust the joystick?

 

 

2. There are also problems with the thrust lever... I've calibrated everything so far..

But what I notice is that when I touch the thrust during the flight or move it minimally, the whole plane moves.. It accelerates quickly, moves back and forth... Even though I only touch the thrust... Very strange .

 

 

3. On the ground when I press the gas, the machine always pulls very strongly to the left or right just before taking off... I have to constantly correct with the pedals... The whole thing ends up looking like drifting...

Somehow I don't get along with V2 at all... I don't fly much Airbus... But before V2 I didn't have any major problems.

Comparing takeoff and landing between the PMDG 737 and Fenix, is like night and day. The 737, you can nail the centerline with no problem on takeoff, the Fenix, is like flying a taildragger in a gusty crosswind. Same on landing. 

42 minutes ago, Lenovouser said:

Hi,

I don't fly Airbus very often. but since V2 I have had big problems with Fenix.

 

1. The Thrustmaster joystick is extremely sensitive. Every small movement causes the machine to move too violently.

Of course I adjusted the sensitivity and tried a few things.

According to Fenix HP I should even set the sensitivity to 0... but that is extremely direct..

I tried -55 -60% and the machine still reacts very unnaturally.

Yesterday I made a landing with Honeycomb Alpha and it was much, much better than with Thrustmaster Joystick...

But you want to load an Airbus with a joystick 🙂

But the difference was huge... with Honeycomb I found a lot more feeling.

But it wasn't always like this... Before V2 I had no problems with TCA.

somehow since V2 it reacts very violently.

In addition, I often have problems stabilizing the aircraft after takeoff.

Do you have any tips on how I can optimally adjust the joystick?

 

 

2. There are also problems with the thrust lever... I've calibrated everything so far..

But what I notice is that when I touch the thrust during the flight or move it minimally, the whole plane moves.. It accelerates quickly, moves back and forth... Even though I only touch the thrust... Very strange .

 

 

3. On the ground when I press the gas, the machine always pulls very strongly to the left or right just before taking off... I have to constantly correct with the pedals... The whole thing ends up looking like drifting...

Somehow I don't get along with V2 at all... I don't fly much Airbus... But before V2 I didn't have any major problems.

I have none of these problems which tells me it's a control issue on your side.

1) Not sure where you read of senstitivity 0, but it's wrong. You set the sensititivty for the elevator axis in MSFS to -20/-20. All other values have to be default for MSFS calibrations! (Important)

2) Really weird. This sounds like a double binding OR a camera mod (FSRealistic?). Check for the physical throttle axis if it's bound to something else apart from throttle.

3) You need to explain this more: When does that happen? Right after setting TO thrust? Or only later when gaining speed on the takeoff run? If right after takeoff, it's probably something with the rudder; check the settings in the EFB and see if that helps. If later, it sounds like crosswind. You have to counteract with aileron into the wind (and rudder to the other side), otherwide the aircraft will shift into the crosswind. That's normal and to be expected on crosswind. If there was no crosswind - then I don't know.

Again, the Fenix acts just fine for me, no change to before v2.

A new Fenix A320 is out, maybe this one resolve your issues:

○    Improved latching into detents with incremental throttle control

3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Comparing takeoff and landing between the PMDG 737 and Fenix, is like night and day. The 737, you can nail the centerline with no problem on takeoff, the Fenix, is like flying a taildragger in a gusty crosswind. Same on landing. 

Hm. I am not getting that. Which controllers are you using? Sensitivity settings? I only recently started flying the Fenix keep in mind. No squirrel issues for me.

2 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

it sounds like crosswind. You have to counteract with aileron into the wind (and rudder to the other side), otherwide the aircraft will shift into the crosswind.

In general, great advice, I would just like to expand a little about this point, talking about A320:

For crosswind takeoffs, routine use of into wind aileron is not necessary. In strong crosswind conditions, small lateral stick input may be used to maintain wings level, if deemed necessary due to into wind wing reaction, but avoid using large deflections, resulting in excessive spoiler deployment which increase the aircraft tendency to turn into the wind (due to high weight on wheels on the spoiler extended side), reduces lift and increases drag. Spoiler deflection becomes significant with more than a third sidestick deflection.

9 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Hm. I am not getting that. Which controllers are you using? Sensitivity settings? I only recently started flying the Fenix keep in mind. No squirrel issues for me.

I have hundreds and hundreds of hours on the Fenix, and it  is only with B2 that I have had this issue , and so have many others on their discord page. I tried the set tings recommended by Fenix, and tried tweaking them and it still isn't the way it was in V1 or any other tubeliner I have flown. It's OK now, but I think passengers in a real A 320 that handled on the ground like B2, would be glad when the flight was over. 😏

Hi,

First of all, thank you very much for all the tips.

So I flew Fenix for about 300 hours before V2 and didn't actually have any problems.

I suddenly had a lot of problems in V2, I don't fly Airbus very often and I only installed V2 a few days ago.

I have easily 500 hours in Fslabs and think that I know a bit about Airbus, but I still looked for the problems at Fenix.

I didn't understand why the plane was acting strange.

But well, I installed the V2 update today and lo and behold: it's a completely different plane! as it was before. Now everything works normally.

My TCA stick also reacts as it should.

I don't know why it was like this for me with V2, because no one else reported any major problems.

But with the update it has become much better.

I also enjoyed rolling on the ground for the first time at Fenix... it was always strange to move the plane on the ground.

Overall, I think the planes in MSFS feel very light and strange.

Still, rolling on the ground with the V2 update was really good.

I am super happy with this update. Performance is great, and the long standing problem that I've had has been corrected (thanks Aamir!). 

I've done two LA to Las Vegas flights today, and they've been absolutely perfect. On my last flight, I had a 26L approach with winds of 24007G21. Flew a fairly decent crab to the runway and was able to drop the nose right on the center line. I still need to tweak the rudder a little to help with the taxiing, but other than that I think she flies great now. 

I'm also pleased that they fixed the panel lighting. On my system, the initial default brightness was over the top bright. Now, full brightness seems correct for daytime flying.

Edited March 11, 20242 yr by MDFlier

I’ve also got the Captain Pack X Airbus Edition and I did fiddle around for quite some time before settling on sensitivities that I’m happy with. Having optimal sensitivity settings is crucial.

Throttle quadrant: 

• first make sure it’s properly calibrated. Have a look here and here
• adjust sensitivities in MSFS control setup. For me 320 sim pilot’s settings were perfect
• calibrate throttle in MCDU

Sidestick:

• I don’t have any issues handflying the aircraft using Fenix recommended settings with SDS (-20/-20)
• For rudder twist on sidestick I recommend rudder damping on, sensitivity -40%, dead zone 3%, reactivity 70%

Edited March 12, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

Thanks

I adjusted everything and now the Fenix flies well again.

But I had a little problem when landing yesterday.

I turned off AP at 1000 feet and took over manually.

Then I noticed that my stick wasn't responding every now and then, so I had to switch on the AP again to stabilize it.

After deactivating AP the stick worked again.

No idea what that was, I'll have to test it again. But it was a bit strange.

I can rule out a problem with the stick because I tested it and it works.

The other problem I didn't solve:

Thrustmaster thrust lever, as soon as I touch it, Fenix gives thrust..

Yes, it must be due to double occupancy, but I looked at all the settings yesterday and couldn't find anything.

Do you have a tip for me on how I can solve it with the thrust lever?

49 minutes ago, Lenovouser said:

Then I noticed that my stick wasn't responding every now and then, so I had to switch on the AP again to stabilize it.

After deactivating AP the stick worked again.

No idea what that was, I'll have to test it again. But it was a bit strange.

That is strange. Don't think I've had that. Looks like you checked everything. Perhaps checking sidestick in MCDU controls config => sidestick. Does hardware on the left side correspond with aircraft on the right side? Also check nullzone is not too high, both in MCDU and MSFS sensitivity settings. I'm using 3%. 

51 minutes ago, Lenovouser said:

Thrustmaster thrust lever, as soon as I touch it, Fenix gives thrust..

Yes, it must be due to double occupancy, but I looked at all the settings yesterday and couldn't find anything.

Do you have a tip for me on how I can solve it with the thrust lever?

Again, I'd check deadzone/nullzone in both MCDU and controls setup. I'm also using 3% for thrust levers - perhaps you need to set it higher?

For me, getting thrust levers to properly work wasn't easy. I spent a lot of time on it. Hopefully you'll be able to sort it out. The TCA Captains pack is sweet!

Thanks again,

Yes, I checked the Thrustmaster stick for a long time yesterday... Once in MSFS Settings and once under Windows with the joy.cpl command... There were no misfires.

I have to test it further.

I already have the thrust lever at 5%...

It's still strange, as soon as I touch it lightly, the engine starts to accelerate.

and experienced something very strange.

I have Logitech G915 and Logitech G502 mouse.

When the mouse goes into power saving mode, I move the mouse and it comes back from power saving mode... Then automatic thrust control is often deactivated for me... Lol... No idea why that happens?

I've only had it in Fenix V2 so far.

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Cpt Piett, in which sector of the yoke in the simulator can I visualize this, and perform this sensitivity that you suggested, (rudder twist on sidestick I recommend rudder damping on, sensitivity -40%, dead zone 3%, reactivity 70%)   thank you

54 minutes ago, Lenovouser said:

Thanks again

No worries. I was hoping that my advice would resolve your issues, but I guess it's more complicated. A lot of the things you describe are in fact quite strange. I'll let you know if I get an epiphany!

35 minutes ago, Baptista said:

Cpt Piett, in which sector of the yoke in the simulator can I visualize this, and perform this sensitivity that you suggested, (rudder twist on sidestick I recommend rudder damping on, sensitivity -40%, dead zone 3%, reactivity 70%)   thank you

If I understand your question correctly, you set rudder damping in EFB - settings. You set sensitivities in MSFS controls menu. Then you can check if physical rudders/sidestick correspond with sim in MCDU-config-control setup. To get to the right page you need to push the bottom left -> button.