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I'm just looking for general information and opinions about Flight Environment X developed by Flight1:http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=flt1fexDoes it integrate seamlessly with FSX's built-in weather system (such as the real-world updates), or do I have set up the look of the clouds, etc. in FEX every time before I start FSX?What's the performance like? I know the website claims no performance loss, but is this just a sales pitch, or do they actually deliver?I'd also like to see some before/after comparisons between default FSX and FEX, if anybody has them or wouldn't mind taking the time to create them.I've hunted for reviews with Google, but I can't seem to find any, so I figured I'd appeal directly to the end users.Thanks.

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Everyone's performance will be different. FSX has the broadest range of performance differences of any FS series I can recall. Flight1 offers a 30 day money back guarantee. The only way to see if it will meet your needs on your specific hardware/software combination is to give it a test fly. Bob..

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>Flight1 offers a 30 day money back guarantee.I hadn't realized that. That's good to know. Still, I'd like to hear other people's experience with the software, or at least a link to a good review.

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Most beautiful clouds I have ever seen in a flight sim. Saw no difference in performance on my old 4 year old computer and see none on my present.

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It is just beautiful and no performance loss at all on my rather modest machine. Try it out and you will keep it. IMHO.

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>Here's a link to their support forum: >http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=34>>Of particular note is the developers response to each and>every issue in a timely manner. Further development of an>integrated weather engine is promised at no additional charge>as well.>>Regards,>Jim KarnThanks for that. You're right, the developers do seem extremely active in the forums, which is always nice to see since there are few things worse than buying a "dead" product.

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Hi!I think it's brilliant! The beautiful cirrus clouds alone are worth it! :-) Try to set up 8/8 coverage of cirrus at some 20000 feet, so beautiful! /Magnus

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Here you can find some shots I took with FEX:http://www.flightsimworld.com/forums/index...6&hl=atmosphereI can absolutely recommend FEX, it renders high quality clouds with no fps impact - at least for me, I've got an old Athlon 64 3000+, ATI x850xt, 1GB ram, which struggled with FSX's default clouds and now seems to perform better than before.You can alter the cloud resolution all by yourself, so you can further influence the fps impact.In the FEX user interface, you can select cloud, sky and water themes or create new themes yourself (yes, you can actually design clouds yourself, with an easy-to-use editor).Then you click the "install" button and FEX installs the selected themes into FSX, replacing the original cloud textures etc.From that point on, you can shut down FEX and start and use FSX quite as usual, including all weather options, but with spectacularly enhanced clouds.Hope this helps :)Greetings from GermanyAlex

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Thanks for everybody's input. I made the purchase this evening, and "stunning" is the only word I can think of to describe FEX. Online purchase and installation could not have been easier, and the software itself is very user friendly, though a little intimidating at first simply because there are so many options to choose from.A few screenshots I took. For comparison, here's FSX "before":http://www.picupload.net/f-3d36fca081cb920...dd142941382.jpghttp://www.picupload.net/f-50a7b97c95ede6a...236134d2e46.jpgand "after":http://www.picupload.net/f-e015a67f15dc439...e04d8d38fc2.jpghttp://www.picupload.net/f-5f2a9c5950860f1...4d05201fa30.jpgThere's simply no comparison.

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Man ... that really looks good. It's a great enhancement. I just wish the developers would rethink their price point.I just can't bring myself to part with $44.95 USD for a better sky/water environment. Perhaps it's because the price point for Flight Simulator X (an entire flight simulator) is $44.99.At $24.99 ... I think there's a value proposition.Christmas coupon promotion???

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Yes, it does.You can even edit the water textures and the wave patterns to suit your own taste.

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Maybe it helps to hear that they will add a free weather engine in a future update.

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>Man ... that really looks good. It's a great enhancement. I>just wish the developers would rethink their price point.>>I just can't bring myself to part with $44.95 USD for a better>sky/water environment. Perhaps it's because the price point>for Flight Simulator X (an entire flight simulator) is>$44.99.>>At $24.99 ... I think there's a value proposition.>>Christmas coupon promotion???I don't know if you're going to see the price come down any time soon since this iteration of Flight Environment just came out this past September, though I can understand your hesitation to spend that kind of money. However, it's almost like getting a whole new game. The difference is that dramatic (as the screenshots show), and I saw zero impact on my performance.There's also a free update for FEX coming in the near future that will allow it download and accurately depict real-world weather in game, as well as the inclusion of improved runway and airport textures. So it's eventually going to be more than just a simple texture replacement.Really, there are two options at the moment: 1) Wait for the price to drop; or 2) Buy it, see it for yourself, and if you don't feel it's worth the money then take advantage of the 30-day money back guarantee. And for the heck of it, one more screenshot. This is coming in for a landing at Port Columbus International Airport during a snow storm:http://www.picupload.net/f-cd236fa9619bbcc...c55d18640e2.jpg

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Here is the default FSX version of this scene (I created a theme to resemble the conditions created by the FEX theme designer, which took about 4 minutes of tweaking conditions):http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/181599.jpgThere are definite differences here, but upon reflection, I'm not certain the improvement is worth a cost equivalent to the entire simulator itself.This is inherently an unfair comparison, as FEX does a lot more than create sky environments, and the value of a dollar compared to a Euro certainly has affected the judgement of the developers as it relates to price point ... but I think you see my point with this comparison.Not to mention the fact that you are clearly right of centerline. Heh! ;)

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I love it!! It looks great and performs really well for me. The detail seems to be much more aligned with real life. Capt.Mac

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FEX is definitely better than the default FSX cloud environment, mostly because you get control over cloud layers (this is just my opinion). FEX themes incorporate clouds in multiple layers where default FSX seems to give you one type of cloud per scene. My only issue with FEX so far has been price.This guy over here is doing some phenomenonal work with clouds that I think surpasses FEX in just about every respect:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/181600.jpghttp://www.flightsimworld.com/forums//?showtopic=129350Here is the Real Environment Extreme website:http://www.realenvironmentxtreme.com/When I first ran across this guy, he was working on his own. Don't know the whole story, but seemed like FEX developers were trying to hire him but were unsuccessful.I certainly hope Phil Taylor is paying attention to the work this kid is doing. His work improving water alone justifies his immediate kidnapping by ACES Studios. He's making the Magic Screenie a reality.This right here is just sick it's so good:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/181601.jpg

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FEX = Stunning and I could not use FSX without it...no performance hit and you can make it look and natural or as wild as you like.My own Stormy Autumn cloud theme.12036595su0.jpg2007111919314515copyrm8.jpg

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>Not to mention the fact that you are clearly right of>centerline. Heh! ;)Yes, my piloting skills do often leave something to be desired. But I'm getting better (that is to say every flight no longer ends with a crash). :DBut that is perhaps not the best comparison to make between FEX and default. Try recreating the other two shots I posted, and I think you'll find that FSX default simply comes up short.

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Snip: "Try recreating the other two shots I posted, and I think you'll find that FSX default simply comes up short."I like the sound of that challenge.If you can tell me what airport you were flying out of, I will try to make a comparison shot.

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>Snip: "Try recreating the other two shots I posted, and I>think you'll find that FSX default simply comes up short.">>I like the sound of that challenge.>>If you can tell me what airport you were flying out of, I will>try to make a comparison shot.Well, the first one was just somewhere up in the sky. The second one was off the coast of Hawaii, Hilo Airport, I believe (though I might have that name a bit wrong).

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>FEX is definitely better than the default FSX cloud>environment, mostly because you get control over cloud layers>(this is just my opinion). FEX themes incorporate clouds in>multiple layers where default FSX seems to give you one type>of cloud per scene. My only issue with FEX so far has been>price.>>This guy over here is doing some phenomenonal work with clouds>that I think surpasses FEX in just about every respect:>>http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/181600.jpg>>http://www.flightsimworld.com/forums//?showtopic=129350>>Here is the Real Environment Extreme website:>http://www.realenvironmentxtreme.com/To be fair, that shot you posted is actually a combination of Real Environment and Flight Environment.

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Mountain Man,This isn't perfect (I spent maybe 5 minutes on this), but it's fairly close ... note the 3 layers of clouds (this was my interpretation of your shot: an overcast moving in, thunderheads building, and high cirrus in the upper atmosphere):http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/181602.jpgAgain ... I'm not debating that FEX isn't a good effort ... I'm just questioning whether it's worth what a person paid for the entire simulator (keeping in mind there are global financial considerations also that are involved.)This was created by overlaying 3 cloud types. It seems to me that in the default FSX themes environment, this isn't typical (usually, it's a single cloud layer of a certain cloud type.) But creating this weather theme in the default FSX enviornment was trivial and cost-free.

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