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Haven't see the announcement yet - and as a very, very satisfied customer of the FS9 model I'll be getting this one.Now, where did the wife hide the credit cards???

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Hi,I took the bird out for a short trip and here is my very brief report.In general it's wonderful to have this aircraft installed in FSX. I've missed it a lot from FS9. Seems to work allright. The only thing I've noticed is that the beacon lights up the VC with a very intense flash. Not that nice. I don't know if this is an issue or a feature. I've posted a question at F1 support forum.A quick and dirty performance comparison with the Default C172 SP in DX9 mode.Standing still on a runway in 2D cockpit. C172: 81 fps, PC-12: 63 fps.Mid air 2000 feet in VC. C172 68 fps, PC-12: 30 fps.Considering that the PC-12 has a glass cockpit, this is pretty much what I expected. Enough fps to suite my need. But if you take a flight over dense urban areas with a lot of AI, I guess you have to pull scenery sliders to the left, to be able to fly it.The configuration utility allows you to disable the co pilot glass panels. I've not tested what impact this has on fps.Ulf B :-)Core2Duo X6800, 4GB RAM, BFG 8800GTXCreative SB X-Fi (Gamer mode)Vista 32 SP1 RC, FSX Acc/SP2

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Hi again,Update on beacon flashing in VC. Fast reply from Jim Rhoads, who confirms that it's an issue and they are looking into it.Flight1 support is as good as ever.Ulf B

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Hi Ulf,thanks for the brief performance test.are the instruments fluid? The FS9 version had very stuttery instruments. The update rate felt like two times per second or so.Alex

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I bought the PC 12 yesterday but I have not been send any download/key instructions - how long did it take you guys to get those from Flight 1? Maybe I need to try it again but I don't want to may twice.bernd

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Hi Alex,I will be honest with you, I have never heard of this complaint in the FS9 version of the PC12 from anyone else. Could it be a system configuration? Are you referring to the VC or the 2D view?Regards,Jim Rhoads

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>I bought the PC 12 yesterday but I have not been send any>download/key instructions - how long did it take you guys to>get those from Flight 1? Maybe I need to try it again but I>don't want to may twice.>>berndBernd,There is no sending of keys... it is installed automatically upon purchase.Regards,Jim Rhoads

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>I bought the PC 12 yesterday but I have not been send any>download/key instructions - how long did it take you guys to>get those from Flight 1? Maybe I need to try it again but I>don't want to may twice.>>berndBernd,If you buy a download from the Fligh1 site you do this the following way:1. Download the installer from Flight1. Every downloadable product has this download link. At this point you haven't purchased any thing yet.2. Run the downloaded installer wrapper and fill in the purchase form. At this point you have purchased the product. Save a backup copy of the registration key file. The installer will execute the product setup program autmatically.How could you buy the PC-12 without having downloaded the Flight1 installer? Did you buy the CD-version by mistake?Ulf B

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Alex,In my setup the instruments are fluid enough. I haven't noticed anything odd yet. But I've only made some short flights for testing purposes. I don't recall stuttery instruments in FS9. Was this in VC? I did'nt fly VC in FS9, so maybe I missed this problem back then.I tested to turn of the co pilot glass panels in the VC, and this gave me about 6-8 more fps. So if you need to tweak fps, this is a good option in the configurator.Ulf B :-)Core2Duo X6800, 4GB RAM, BFG 8800GTXCreative SB X-Fi (Gamer mode)Vista 32 SP1 RC, FSX Acc/SP2

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I don't think I ordered the CD because then I should have received an email from them anyhow. I have ordered many times from them and never had a problem. I just will give it another try.ThanksBernd

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I just made a quick flight from Vancouver (Vancouver+ installed - very massive scenery) and all is well. Aircraft has fluid movement and the instruments appear to work as advertised. The beacon is a little distracting but it appears they will work on that. VC is very good.All in all - great aircraft and fantastic job F1. What a joy to have something to fly that works in Acceleration.fb

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Bernd,If you buy a downloadable add on from Flight1, the first thing you do is to download the flight1 wrapper/installer. The don't send you any keys and such.Did you "buy" from this page? http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=fsxpc12Ulf BCore2Duo X6800, 4GB RAM, BFG 8800GTXCreative SB X-Fi (Gamer mode)Vista 32 SP1 RC, FSX Acc/SP2

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A quote from their webpage, "the new FSX package is a complete overhaul of our best-selling FS2004 version".So I guess this is just FS9 version fixed up?!

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>A quote from their webpage, "the new FSX package is a>complete overhaul of our best-selling FS2004 version".>>So I guess this is just FS9 version fixed up?!Not hardly.Jim Rhoads

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>A quote from their webpage, "the new FSX package is a>complete overhaul of our best-selling FS2004 version".>>So I guess this is just FS9 version fixed up?!McCrash,I'm very happy that they gave the ac a "complete overhaul". If you wan't to use the phrase "fixed up" instead, fine with me. If your'e intrested in flying the best aircraft for FSX, I'd recommend you to buy the PC-12.Ulf B

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Downloaded it again and everything is working now. Just did a flight from Santa Barbara to Palm Springs and must say it is a great plane. The only question I have is that coming over the mountains I had to do a very steep approach into the airport and with full flaps and full throttle I could not get the IAS above 105 knots. Do the flaps on the PC 12 have such a big impact on speed, I have never seen that with any other plane?ThanksBernd

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> Do the flaps on the PC 12 have such a big>impact on speed, I have never seen that with any other plane?You better believe it. Full flaps on the PC-12 are not typically used unless for short field work and the PC-12 does it incedibly well. :-) Jim Rhoads

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Thanks, Ulf. Yes it was in VC.I'm gonna buy it. I had a lot of fun with the FS9 PC-12. This aircraft really loves these 900ft runways ;-)Alex

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Bernd,Visit Pilatus site at http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/The flaps ar really BIG on this aircraft. Compare it to another aircraft and you'll see how big the flaps are.But if you want very big flaps, try the Pilatus Porter. FSD has a Porter PC-6, but I haven't tried in FSX. That's a STOL aircraft.Ulf B

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Jim,I talked about VC.Don't take it too serious. With FS9 everything was stuttery anyway and I'm a little bit picky with this.My wife gave permission and credit card is ready ;-). Alex

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Wow, thanks guys, I didn't know that - this opens up a lot of short field landings. Great!Bernd

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I bought her and just did a short flight.Wow! These instruments are really fluid. And I did not notice any heavy FPS impact. I get 50-60 FPS (unlocked) in sparse scenery withoud clouds.One minor complaint though:Why don't you guys add checklists and a reference for the FSX kneeboard. It is somehow tiring that I have to build these myself for most of the aircraft I buy (not just from Flight1 also for others). It is just a hour of work.Anyway. Great aircraft.Alex

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HiJust purchased this product, Big problems!Red light flashes in VC. Take off, switch views, switch back to VC and instruments grey out and everything freezes up. Have to switch the power off to the computer and re start.All other aircraft are working fine and everything else is normal. Tried loading this aircraft several times, set config manager, and same result.I am using SP2 but this makes no difference to any other a/c except for slightly darker windows in one of them. x( Bruce Upperton

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