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Fenix A320 refuses to move while on ground

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I've read through 10 different past threads across AVSIM and other places about this issue, and I'm all out of ideas. Sometimes, quite frequently, if the Fenix A320 is stopped on the ground while taxiing, it refuses to move under its own power, only pushback works.

Things I've tried / checked:

  • Parking brake on/off
  • Ground spoilers armed/disarmed
  • Speedbrake on/off
  • Autobrakes disarmed/max
  • Slew mode to reposition aircraft on scenery
  • Active pause
  • Tap the toe brakes a bunch of times
  • Unassign all "brake" related control inputs from control settings in MSFS
  • Disconnect all controllers (Wingwing Ursa Minor & Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant) and just try to get the aircraft moving by clicking on the controls with the mouse.
  • Restart fenix.exe
  • Reset to a "ready" panel state

I've flown both the FBW A320 and the Fenix a bunch of times, and these issues started today for seemingly no reason, and I'm all out of ideas. Any suggestions, ideas?

Chocks?

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

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Sorry, yes, should have mentioned that too. I've tried toggling the chocks on and off a bunch of times. No difference.

Ive had this too at times... in my case the push-back truck was attached...although on screen i wasnt! Go figure!

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Doug 

I've found that on occasion, especially after an MSFS update, that phantom controller settings seem to be present and affecting my controls.  Cycling through the various control configurations in the MSFS Controls menu for each hardware device has cleared it every time. 

For example, I use FSUIPC for controls on many of my acft, so for those planes the MSFS controls config is completely empty for my yoke, stick, and/or throttles, but when this happens it appears that something, perhaps coming down from the settings saved in the cloud, is present in the controls and fighting FSUIPC even though the controls config in MSFS shows empty.  Cycling through all of the configs for each controller back to the desired one seems to clear that out.

So maybe you have a phantom brake axis lingering in there.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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Seeing as the problem persists even with my controllers disconnected and just using keyboard and mouse, I'm not sure that it could be a phantom axis, but I'll try cycling through the configs in case it makes a difference.

  • Author

Is there no way to check whether brakes are being applied? Like I can visually confirm the toe brakes aren't being pressed, I can see the brake pressure gauge when I arm or disarm the parking brake, is there anything else I can check?

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The other thing is, this only happens with the Fenix. FBW A320 and all other aircraft I have don't exhibit this issue, using the same control settings, same controllers. I get that the Fenix is a lot more complicated than the FBW, but this is just strange.

54 minutes ago, Leftos said:

Is there no way to check whether brakes are being applied? Like I can visually confirm the toe brakes aren't being pressed, I can see the brake pressure gauge when I arm or disarm the parking brake, is there anything else I can check?

If you have FSUIPC, you can watch the internal brake offsets using the logging feature...log offsets 0BC4 and 0BC6 as type UINT16 and display in the MSFS title line.  0 is no brakes, 32767 is max braking.  If it's more than zero, brakes are being applied.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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11 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

If you have FSUIPC, you can watch the internal brake offsets using the logging feature...log offsets 0BC4 and 0BC6 as type UINT16 and display in the MSFS title line.  0 is no brakes, 32767 is max braking.  If it's more than zero, brakes are being applied.

I do have FSUIPC, thanks for the hint. I'll give that a shot. Switched to the FBW A20N for now to get some flight hours in, but I'll try that out once I land and move on to the next flight plan of the day.

I have the same problem...i don't know what happen

 

Philippe Tremblay

I did a complete reinstall of the fenix and i delete all the file about fenix and now the fenix work.

 

Philippe Tremblay

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Peter kelberg

I also have the same issue from time to time with the Fenix.
Try to press the default Pushback keys Ctrl+P and see if it helps.
 

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2 hours ago, David Roch said:

I also have the same issue from time to time with the Fenix.
Try to press the default Pushback keys Ctrl+P and see if it helps.
 

I'll give that a shot too, thanks. No issues with either the FBW A20N or the PMDG B77W on flights last night, so this definitely feels like a Fenix issue and not a hardware issue.

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