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Has the White House fallen ?

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5 hours ago, Simtech95382 said:

I usually don't install them to conserve disc space.

Could be the problem? Your PG and data are on?

GregH

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Greg, I tried both with and without PG on. Strangely, all of the other "monuments" and POIs are displayed  most realistically. I have all of the US updates and the US Cities updates. Yes, data is on, but cache is not. I do occasionally get the "bandwidth"  notice, but all of the other POIs are displayed in exceptional detail. There's no building, no drawing  on the ground.. Nada.. The South Lawn is displayed WITH the landing markers for the helicopter. I understand that the heliport at the WH is KWHH. My installation does not recognize this symbol. Thank you for reaching out.. I think I plowed that ground of Updates/PG already, though.😔

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8 hours ago, Simtech95382 said:

Greg, I tried both with and without PG on. Strangely, all of the other "monuments" and POIs are displayed  most realistically. I have all of the US updates and the US Cities updates. Yes, data is on, but cache is not. I do occasionally get the "bandwidth"  notice, but all of the other POIs are displayed in exceptional detail. There's no building, no drawing  on the ground.. Nada.. The South Lawn is displayed WITH the landing markers for the helicopter. I understand that the heliport at the WH is KWHH. My installation does not recognize this symbol. Thank you for reaching out.. I think I plowed that ground of Updates/PG already, though.😔

Yeah, Handmade POIs are stored locally. You should see them even if you turn off Bing and Photogrammetry. The White House is a Handmade POI. The Helipad should also be there. At this point I have no idea why the White House and the Helipad aren't showing up. 

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The odd  fact is  the "helipad" with the three markers do show up. But the ICAO ? symbol KWHH  is not recognized by the program. Could someone confirm that MSFS does, in fact, recognize it. I don't think I'm dreaming that I read that this is the symbol for this "heliport". Even the POI "flag" for the WH does NOT show, but does for all of the other landmarks in the Vicinity as well as the landmarks are very well depicted. This definitely is a puzzle. Thank you for checking in and offering suggestions. Hopefully perhaps someone may have seen this before and drops in and suggests a clue. I'll try a third party addon and see if that rendition is displayed.  

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55 minutes ago, Simtech95382 said:

The odd  fact is  the "helipad" with the three markers do show up. But the ICAO ? symbol KWHH  is not recognized by the program. Could someone confirm that MSFS does, in fact, recognize it. I don't think I'm dreaming that I read that this is the symbol for this "heliport". Even the POI "flag" for the WH does NOT show, but does for all of the other landmarks in the Vicinity as well as the landmarks are very well depicted. This definitely is a puzzle. Thank you for checking in and offering suggestions. Hopefully perhaps someone may have seen this before and drops in and suggests a clue. I'll try a third party addon and see if that rendition is displayed.  

It's been asked before, but: Did you install all the World Updates concerning the USA?

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Yes, I did and there was WU 2 that needed an update. All U.S. updates c/w. Thank you for asking..

 

OK, update: The plot thickens: I downloaded https://flightsim.to/file/42833/white-house-south-lawn-helipad-washington-dc and the response gets more weird. The ICAO KWHH is  now recognized, the three markers for the helipad on the South Lawn are still there, there's a new circular drive and fencing added around the South Lawn, but still NO WH structure. Is there a scenery library/object missing? What gives??🤪

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I am seeing exactly the same thing -- no White House structure -- just a blurry white blob where the WH should be, but as far as I can tell the other DC buildings look fine. All World Updates are installed and up to date. The problem exists even with all addons removed. A mystery, indeed!

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47 minutes ago, Simtech95382 said:

Yes, I did and there was WU 2 that needed an update. All U.S. updates c/w. Thank you for asking..

 

OK, update: The plot thickens: I downloaded https://flightsim.to/file/42833/white-house-south-lawn-helipad-washington-dc and the response gets more weird. The ICAO KWHH is  now recognized, the three markers for the helipad on the South Lawn are still there, there's a new circular drive and fencing added around the South Lawn, but still NO WH structure. Is there a scenery library/object missing? What gives??🤪

Yes, the helipad was supposed to be there by default. You shouldn't need any add-ons like this one. I think you already said you don't have any sceneries installed, but it looks like some exclusion zone the add-ons add to the default scenery.

The helipad in a clean intall of the simulator:

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9 minutes ago, cobalt said:

I am seeing exactly the same thing -- no White House structure -- just a blurry white blob where the WH should be, but as far as I can tell the other DC buildings look fine. All World Updates are installed and up to date. A mystery, indeed!

Like him, you don't have any add-ons installed, right?

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Found the problem (at least for me). I did not have the 40th Anniversary POI installed. Once I installed it, the WH showed up in all its glory. Could this be Simtech's problem also?

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SOLVED:  Ok, good simmers, found the culprit but I don't understand because I have NOT deleted any key U.S. scenery. A few moments ago I noticed that the 40th Anniversary POIs wasn't installed. I've been to the Content Manager for the past three days, didn't notice this discrepancy. I did notice the WU 2 update, but at least it was installed. I installed the 40th Ann. POI and wahh lahh, the ICAO, the complete grounds AND a very good visual depiction of the WH. SMH, was this just a "Senior Moment". I don't think so, but at least I'm back up enjoying the People's House and departing the South Lawn. 😄

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6 minutes ago, cobalt said:

Found the problem (at least for me). I did not have the 40th Anniversary POI installed. Once I installed it, the WH showed up in all its glory. Could this be Simtech's problem also?

Maybe, I think he installed all the World Updates and City Updates, but missed the 40th Anniversary update.

@Simtech95382 Is this package installed for you?
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EDIT: Just saw it was that your issue. Glad it was solved. 

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Just want to thank each and everyone of you who felt kind enough to jump in and offer assistance. Thank you, one and all. Blue skies..Terry

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8 hours ago, Simtech95382 said:

. SMH, was this just a "Senior Moment". I don't think so, but at least I'm back up enjoying the People's House and departing the South Lawn. 😄

Robert Southey's boring sermon poem (1799)

"You are old, father William," the young man cried,
"The few locks which are left you are grey;
You are hale, father William, a hearty old man;
Now tell me the reason, I pray."
"In the days of my youth," father William replied,
"I remember'd that youth would fly fast,
And abus'd not my health and my vigour at first,
That I never might need them at last."

"You are old, father William," the young man cried,
"And pleasures with youth pass away.
And yet you lament not the days that are gone;
Now tell me the reason, I pray."
"In the days of my youth," father William replied,
"I rememberd that youth could not last;
I thought of the future, whatever I did,
That I never might grieve for the past."

"You are old, father William," the young man cried,
"And life must be hast'ning away;
You are cheerful and love to converse upon death;
Now tell me the reason, I pray."
"I am cheerful, young man," father William replied,
"Let the cause thy attention engage;
In the days of my youth I remember'd my God!
And He hath not forgotten my age."

---------------

Alice in Wonderland is full of several funny poems that make fun of pious literature.

the Reverend Lewis Carroll's parody (Alice and Wonderland):

"You are old, Father William," the young man said,
    "And your hair has become very white;
And yet you incessantly stand on your head—
    Do you think, at your age, it is right?"

"In my youth," Father William replied to his son,
    "I feared it might injure the brain;
But now that I'm perfectly sure I have none,
    Why, I do it again and again."

"You are old," said the youth, "as I mentioned before,
    And have grown most uncommonly fat;
Yet you turned a back-somersault in at the door—
    Pray, what is the reason of that?"

"In my youth," said the sage, as he shook his grey locks,
    "I kept all my limbs very supple
By the use of this ointment—one shilling the box—
    Allow me to sell you a couple."

"You are old," said the youth, "and your jaws are too weak
    For anything tougher than suet;
Yet you finished the goose, with the bones and the beak—
    Pray, how did you manage to do it?"

"In my youth," said his father, "I took to the law,
    And argued each case with my wife;
And the muscular strength, which it gave to my jaw,
    Has lasted the rest of my life."

"You are old," said the youth, "one would hardly suppose
    That your eye was as steady as ever;
Yet you balanced an eel on the end of your nose—
    What made you so awfully clever?"

"I have answered three questions, and that is enough,"
    Said his father; "don't give yourself airs!
Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
    Be off, or I'll kick you down stairs!"

 

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