10 hours ago, mikeymike said:

Because with out auto fps

I used AutoFPS successfully with my last system.  However I get stutters if I use it on my new PC.  Perhaps you don't need it as your PC is very good?

8 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

You can run ultra settings without issues. That chip will eat 200 TLOD for breakfast. What’s probably happening is you’re running into VRAM issues. Ambient Occlusion was one setting that, with the 30 series cards needed to be on Medium. Everything else can be cranked up. 
 

With a 3080, run DX11. DX12 obliterates VRAM in a hurry. Next, lock your FPS with RivaTuner at 30, then upscale with LSFG at 2x. You’ll get 60 FPS at half the price in terms of GPU usage as well as VRAM usage. 

I am running dx11 only 

With lossless and auto fps its smooth

But i am wanting to see if i can get a  smooth sim at 30fps without auto fps and lossless.

But with my system i am not able to sustain that. When it should.

Thanks 

Mike

18 hours ago, mikeymike said:

But i would  like to know what settings to use to get it quite smooth without the apps.

I'm using AutoFPS on every flight. Apart from some stutters here and there (even in remote areas, go figure), it's smooth at around 60fps (locked with RTSS). The biggest cause of stutters IMO is AI traffic. It seems to be a linear relationship between the amount of AI and stutters. 

Since you have an RTX3000-series GPU, why not try to fine-tune the lossless settings at x2 to get the best performance? Lots of information on this in various threads. Disclaimer: I don't use lossless myself, as I can use native FG, and don't see any advantages with lossless (in terms of smoothness) vs native FG. 

Just my 5 cents. 

17 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

First, try to stabilize your sim so that is capable of giving out more than 30 native FPS. Use your favorite tweak guide for that. You have a 7950X3D, it shouldn't be hard. Pay attention specially to TLOD, OLOD and your amount of AI traffic (aircraft, roads, and boats).

Highly agree. Start by tuning settings to obtain at least 30+ fps in most situations. 

14 hours ago, mikeymike said:

Ai traffic 50% with AIG.

This is my preferred setting. We have the same CPU. 

8 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

That chip will eat 200 TLOD for breakfast.

Not with 50%+ AIG and at major hubs in my experience. By we've been over this before in the lossless thread. 

8 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

What’s probably happening is you’re running into VRAM issues.

I use the RTSS overlay to monitor VRAM usage. Not sure if the dev mode overlay provides the same information. 

8 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Tlod 400

IMO it's impossible to generalize like this (hence the usefulness of AutoFPS). TLOD 400 is way too high at KLAX, KJFK ect. Worst case scenario in terms of CPU load: 

• major hub with lots of PG in the area
• AI traffic
• high TLOD

Not sure what that might be. I have the same CPU, and all my settings are default, except for: 

• AMD EXPO (or XMP)
• Moderate RAM and CPU overclock (IMO not necessary with the 7950X3D)

18 hours ago, mikeymike said:

I have auto fps and lossless..

But i would  like to know what settings to use to get it quite smooth without the apps.

7 hours ago, mikeymike said:

With lossless and auto fps its smooth

Why not use AutoFPS and lossless then?

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

I keep an eye on my VRAM usage by pressing the windows key + G for the game bar.  MSFS is using 95% of my VRAM most of the time on my RTX3080 at 1440 rez using autoFPS with the FGR program and DX12. I would have said that perhaps it is time for a better GPU but for the fact that MSFS2024 is just around the corner and is expected to be somewhat more economical with resources.

18 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

8 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Tlod 400

IMO it's impossible to generalize like this (hence the usefulness of AutoFPS). TLOD 400 is way too high at KLAX, KJFK ect. Worst case scenario in terms of CPU load: 

Absolutely!  First thing I did with my new PC was too fly over Los Angeles with the settings I posted at 4K.  I was quite amazed to see 60fps maintained over that city.  I did use AutoFPS with my previous PC, but don't need it now (seems to be a cause of stutters now if I turn it on).

I do use AIG to inject real world traffic, but do not use AI traffic, so flying over Los Angeles does have lots of traffic - but the PC still runs at 60fps.  However, I mostly fly GA/business jets, with a bit of Just flights BAe 146, so generally I am not at huge busy airports.

8 hours ago, mikeymike said:

I am running dx11 only 

With lossless and auto fps its smooth

But i am wanting to see if i can get a  smooth sim at 30fps without auto fps and lossless.

But with my system i am not able to sustain that. When it should.

Thanks 

Mike

Sounds like you don't have core parking working properly if you cant get 30FPS consistently.

When you set up your system did you upgrade with windows  in place  did you do a fresh install of windows?

Did you install the appropriate chipset drivers ?

Did you benchmark the system to ensure that the system is (generally) working as intended ?

Most importantly did you exactly follow the AMD recommended process to ensure that the sim is recognized as a game so that the OS properly implements core parking and assigns the game to the X3d CCD ?

https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/how-to-set-up-your-system-with-a-new-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-or/ba-p/589464

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Maxis

7 minutes ago, Maxis said:

Sounds like you don't have core parking working properly if you cant get 30FPS consistently.

Very important: https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/how-to-set-up-your-system-with-a-new-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-or/ba-p/589464

• An Updated Version of Microsoft Windows 10 or 11
• The Newest BIOS for Your Motherboard
• The Newest AMD Ryzen Chipset Driver
• Make sure that Windows ‘Game Mode’ is enabled
• Make sure the Xbox Game Bar App in installed and updated

Check core use with the Ryzen Master app (even better: RTSS with all CPU cores in the overlay). When everything is setup correctly, the first 8 cores (the 3D V-cache cores) should be used). 

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

36 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Check core use with the Ryzen Master app (even better: RTSS with all CPU cores in the overlay). When everything is setup correctly, the first 8 cores (the 3D V-cache cores) should be used). 

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Not with 50%+ AIG and at major hubs in my experience. By we've been over this before in the lossless thread.

I’m convinced you don’t have your cpu optimized since we’re both running 7950x3D’s. Though you’re also running 32gb of RAM, which could be your bottleneck. If you haven’t tuned your RAM, that could also be a contributing factor. I’m able to run AIG with no issues, TLOD 150 on the ground and 600 in the air. 

Just now, V1ROTA7E said:

I’m convinced you don’t have your cpu optimized since we’re both running 7950x3D’s. Though you’re also running 32gb of RAM, which could be your bottleneck. If you haven’t tuned your RAM, that could also be a contributing factor. I’m able to run AIG with no issues, TLOD 150 on the ground and 600 in the air. 

Suggestions are most welcome. How could I optimize my CPU further? And what about RAM usage (less than 5GB total used when flying GA). How can I tune RAM? Specific advice would be awesome. 

You're running AIG and relatively high TLOD with no issues. Does that mean TLOD 150 and AIG at 100% at KLAX with base fps 30+?

53 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

You're running AIG and relatively high TLOD with no issues. Does that mean TLOD 150 and AIG at 100% at KLAX with base fps 30+?

Auto FPS TLOD100+50, 700AGL TLOD600, AIG 50%, AiGround/flow, MapEnhancement “high LOD,” PG on, GAIST, road traffic 25%, 8K shadows, all else Ultra, 4K, TAA Render scale at 120.

KLAX B777 at international gates facing terminal center, Base FPS 28-32, FG on 56-61. 

 

Before I start just suggesting things, what have you done to tune your system?

12 hours ago, Maxis said:

Sounds like you don't have core parking working properly if you cant get 30FPS consistently.

When you set up your system did you upgrade with windows  in place  did you do a fresh install of windows?

Did you install the appropriate chipset drivers ?

Did you benchmark the system to ensure that the system is (generally) working as intended ?

Most importantly did you exactly follow the AMD recommended process to ensure that the sim is recognized as a game so that the OS properly implements core parking and assigns the game to the X3d CCD ?

https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/how-to-set-up-your-system-with-a-new-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-or/ba-p/589464

I think this maybe the issue

11 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Suggestions are most welcome. How could I optimize my CPU further? And what about RAM usage (less than 5GB total used when flying GA). How can I tune RAM? Specific advice would be awesome. 

You're running AIG and relatively high TLOD with no issues. Does that mean TLOD 150 and AIG at 100% at KLAX with base fps 30+?

Ram is set to xmp

10 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Before I start just suggesting things, what have you done to tune your system?

I have followed the AMD recommendations (chipset drivers, updated BIOS, etc). Other than that, I'm not really sure what you mean when you say "tune your system". 

12 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Auto FPS TLOD100+50, 700AGL TLOD600, AIG 50%, AiGround/flow, MapEnhancement “high LOD,” PG on, GAIST, road traffic 25%, 8K shadows, all else Ultra, 4K, TAA Render scale at 120.

I'm using very similar settings.

Also i have checked. My bios and it's up to date.

Cppc is set to cache 

In task manager its in there but running msfs it stays at 0

Is that normal.?

Mike