https://fselite.net/content/toliss-announces-a330xx-as-a330-900/

Amazing news to see that it will already be released in 2024. I wasn't expecting it before 2025 to be honest. Looking forward to having a study-level A330 that I was waiting for since years and years. I wonder if they will push the system-depth even more than they did in their already excellent A320-series 🙂

Edited August 29, 20241 yr by Franz007

This is really nice to hear! Been looking forward to a really good A330 (the Aerosoft one for P3D has been okay to use for now but toliss beats aerosoft by a landslide)! 🤩

That's great news!

Released in 2024? That is certainly unexpected. Is that a full release, as in not alpha and not beta? I see some developers doing betas, but I call those "testing" for people with patience. 

On 8/30/2024 at 2:35 PM, brinx said:

I see some developers doing betas, but I call those "testing" for people with patience. 

i call it some dubious companies (not all) ripping off customers by selling them unfinished products with the promise it will be finished when it rarely is.  Flight factor have form on this with the 320 and 350.

Edited September 4, 20241 yr by fluffyflops

2 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

i call it some dubious companies (not all) ripping off customers by selling them unfinished products with the promise it will be finished when it rarely is.  Flight factor have form on this with the 320 and 350.

No addon ever has been „finished“ because there is always a new feature that can be added. PMDG for example has released addons without a weather-radar or an EFB. Fenix has sold an addon with wrong fuel-consumption values and wrong engine-modelling leading to underpowered single-engine performance etc. The expectations have almost no limits because everyone expects an addon to be at the level of the CL650 for a ridiculous low price being not even half of what only 1h in a level-D sim costs. At least FF is decent enough to qualify it as a beta (that btw every new simulator was at release as well). Welcome in the world of software-releases.

Edited September 4, 20241 yr by Franz007

On 9/4/2024 at 9:06 AM, fluffyflops said:

i call it some dubious companies (not all) ripping off customers by selling them unfinished products with the promise it will be finished when it rarely is.  Flight factor have form on this with the 320 and 350.

He has a LOT of experience with all of his planes. None of them are finished and none of them have been updated for 1 1/2 years or more. Flight Factor could be taken off the market. It is armed robbery to pay $90 for a plane that is then abandoned and unsupported.

 

Besides, the BETA world is already tiring. I prefer to wait for the addon to be ready and not a BETA version. A developer rushes to release a plane in BETA state and it is more frustrating than waiting for the plane to be ready to fly.

I choose to wait.

12 hours ago, Guido1996 said:

Besides, the BETA world is already tiring. I prefer to wait for the addon to be ready and not a BETA version. A developer rushes to release a plane in BETA state and it is more frustrating than waiting for the plane to be ready to fly.

I choose to wait.

agreed.  but because of the likes of  the post above and the 3 people who liked the post.  that stuff give the devs a green light to release unfinished rubbish. Theres someone happy to buy substandard rubbish 

thats why the default a330 cant even fly around a corner properly with an autpilot that randomly turns off. 

you reap what you sow.  its these people that have turned this community into whats its become. 

Edited September 6, 20241 yr by fluffyflops

I don't think I will buy the 330 in the end if I'm not mistaken it is very similar to the other Toliss aircraft I have the 340 and the 320 neo I would have preferred a 350 or 380 that are already quite different.

20 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

agreed.  but because of the likes of  the post above and the 3 people who liked the post.  that stuff give the devs a green light to release unfinished rubbish. Theres someone happy to buy substandard rubbish 

thats why the default a330 cant even fly around a corner properly with an autpilot that randomly turns off. 

you reap what you sow.  its these people that have turned this community into whats its become. 

Unfortunately yes. Toliss products are very good and for that reason I understand that it does not make sense to pressure the developer to launch an airplane or a BETA version and then have to deal with an unfinished product.

I agree with you. Pay for a BETA and then have a headache. No.

13 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

I don't think I will buy the 330 in the end if I'm not mistaken it is very similar to the other Toliss aircraft I have the 340 and the 320 neo I would have preferred a 350 or 380 that are already quite different.

I like the A330 more than the A346. You can get the A350 from Flight Factor, but it's rubbish. You're just wasting your money. If you like Airbus, buy the Toliss A346, which is very good, or the Feliss 742. These are the planes if you like long-range flights. Since the A330 is from Toliss, I understand it's going to be a very high-quality plane. Regards!

Yes, I have the a340 and the 320 from toliss so I would like to see something with a little different avionics like an a350/380, that's why I'm not too excited about the a330.

12 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

Yes, I have the a340 and the 320 from toliss so I would like to see something with a little different avionics like an a350/380, that's why I'm not too excited about the a330.

There's still a long way to go before the plane is complete. But Zombie Studios is developing an A220 and it looks like it's going to be pretty cool and it's going to be freeware. Here's the link so you can follow the project and see the progress. And I think it will have the new Airbus avionics you're looking for.

 

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/87833-airbus-a220-100-for-x-plane-11-and-x-plane-12/&page=2&tab=comments#comment-400156

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/291870-zombie-studios-is-developing-the-airbus-a220-100-for-the-x-plane-11-and-x-plane-12-flightsimulator/&page=2#comment-2764772

9 hours ago, Guido1996 said:

There's still a long way to go before the plane is complete. But Zombie Studios is developing an A220 and it looks like it's going to be pretty cool and it's going to be freeware. Here's the link so you can follow the project and see the progress. And I think it will have the new Airbus avionics you're looking for.

 

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/87833-airbus-a220-100-for-x-plane-11-and-x-plane-12/&page=2&tab=comments#comment-400156

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/291870-zombie-studios-is-developing-the-airbus-a220-100-for-the-x-plane-11-and-x-plane-12-flightsimulator/&page=2#comment-2764772

Forget any freeware A220 if you are interested in something "cool" or at least advanced. "Hot Start" (the best dev in XP) is developping an A220 that we can expect to be mindblowing good. There has never been any good freeware airliners, except the ZIBO.

23 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

Forget any freeware A220 if you are interested in something "cool" or at least advanced. "Hot Start" (the best dev in XP) is developping an A220 that we can expect to be mindblowing good. There has never been any good freeware airliners, except the ZIBO.

You are right about that. Obviously I don't expect payware quality in a freeware plane but I do expect acceptable quality for a freeware product. The guys at ZIBO deserve a big round of applause and recognition for the constant work on the project.
I actually wasn't aware that Hot Start was making an A220. Yes, he is one of the best developers. FlyJSim seems pretty good to me too.